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AntComello wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:51 am Where can I find more info on this trial? And is the Italian press really not covering it?
You can find wiretaps from trials here: https://www.radioradicale.it/processi/1 ... e-graviano

They are not covering it, total media silence. Well its very sensitive topic to say so , there are members of masonic lodges and secret services on that trial. Witnesses said there is super-cupola formed by most powerful bosses,masonic lodges,secret services to control whole of Italy. They disappeared after that claims, also one witness that did not disappear changed his testimony. Consider the fact that members of P2 were heads of all secret services in Italy,also president of Vatican bank and so on,i totally believe what witnesses said.
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Also back in 2012 when Sicilian mafia wanted to kill Nino Di Matteo, order came directly from Matteo Messina Denaro he said "it must be done", in Palermo or Rome with explosive. Police found out about that and arrested Palermo bosses who were behind it. Vito Galatolo a turncoat, said that people who ordered death of Nino Di Matteo are same people that wanted Falcone and Borsellino dead.
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Strax wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:14 am Also back in 2012 when Sicilian mafia wanted to kill Nino Di Matteo, order came directly from Matteo Messina Denaro he said "it must be done", in Palermo or Rome with explosive. Police found out about that and arrested Palermo bosses who were behind it. Vito Galatolo a turncoat, said that people who ordered death of Nino Di Matteo are same people that wanted Falcone and Borsellino dead.
I thought that came from Riina?
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CabriniGreen wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:35 am I thought that came from Riina?
Riina was recorded saying that in 2013 , order from Matteo Messina Denaro came in 2012.Shorty after that Riina received a letter that said: "Shut that damn mouth," letter was seized by prison authorities. "Remember that your family is free. We'll take care of the rest."
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Austrian Bookmaker, Dutch Billionaire Embroiled in Italian Mafia Gambling Probe That Leaves Malta Red-Faced

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Strax wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:10 am
AntComello wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:51 am Where can I find more info on this trial? And is the Italian press really not covering it?
You can find wiretaps from trials here: https://www.radioradicale.it/processi/1 ... e-graviano

They are not covering it, total media silence. Well its very sensitive topic to say so , there are members of masonic lodges and secret services on that trial. Witnesses said there is super-cupola formed by most powerful bosses,masonic lodges,secret services to control whole of Italy. They disappeared after that claims, also one witness that did not disappear changed his testimony. Consider the fact that members of P2 were heads of all secret services in Italy,also president of Vatican bank and so on,i totally believe what witnesses said.

I'm with you there. This information is in my opinion barely scratching the surface but at least is publically acknowledging that there are powerful aligned forces and anyone who speaks out against them have since disappeared.
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Remember the Vatican banker Roberto Calvi? I believe they found him hung from a bridge in northern Italy if memory serves me...... did he bang himself? I’m not so sure.
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It was part of that whole Frederick Sindona scandal years bank and the billions in Vatican money.... I’m sure that forces OTHER and stronger than the Mafia were at play there!
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maxiestern11 wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:18 am I’m sure that forces OTHER and stronger than the Mafia were at play there!
of course there are stronger forces, otherwise cosa nostra, ndrangheta and camorra would be defeated long ago or reduced at street gangs level
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Agreed!..... over the many decades they’ve worked in tandem with the Italian state, Masonic lodges, P2, etc to further their agendas!
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scagghiuni wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:15 am
maxiestern11 wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:18 am I’m sure that forces OTHER and stronger than the Mafia were at play there!
of course there are stronger forces, otherwise cosa nostra, ndrangheta and camorra would be defeated long ago or reduced at street gangs level
As scagghiuni said , but its like that in almost every part of Europe.Politics,mafia & secret services are pretty much united for their own personal interests. When i say secret services i don't mean the whole secret service and all politicians but some parts of secret service and some politicians. Here in Eastern Europe its pretty known who is working for secret services , they are pretty much untouchable.
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Strax wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:57 am As scagghiuni said , but its like that in almost every part of Europe.Politics,mafia & secret services are pretty much united for their own personal interests. When i say secret services i don't mean the whole secret service and all politicians but some parts of secret service and some politicians. Here in Eastern Europe its pretty known who is working for secret services , they are pretty much untouchable.
yes, but in other european countries there are not occult masonic lodges like p2 or secular criminal groups like cosa nostra and ndrangheta
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scagghiuni wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:02 pm
Strax wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:57 am As scagghiuni said , but its like that in almost every part of Europe.Politics,mafia & secret services are pretty much united for their own personal interests. When i say secret services i don't mean the whole secret service and all politicians but some parts of secret service and some politicians. Here in Eastern Europe its pretty known who is working for secret services , they are pretty much untouchable.
yes, but in other european countries there are not occult masonic lodges like p2 or secular criminal groups like cosa nostra and ndrangheta
True , i just said it as example. Here in Eastern Europe its mostly groups that stick around for 10 years max and then someone else takes over. There are no organizations that are long present and rooted into everyday life like in Italy. England and Italy have the most powerful masonic lodges in the world.
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Borsellino massacre, there is a new suspect: the doctor Cinà.
He was the doctor of Totò Riina, the man of the "papello"

https://palermo.repubblica.it/cronaca/2 ... 237584289/

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Borsellino massacre is just another shady case, where fake turncoat Scarantino sent to prison 8 people who are innocent of this in order to hide someone.
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