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Antiliar wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:29 pm
We agree that Mangano was probably a made guy and a leader, but all I'm saying is that at this time we can't prove it. It's all educated guessing, and sometimes guesses can be wrong.
Maybe you will also agree with me on this, but I think that at the beginning Capone absorbed and made too many people for such as a short term as boss, and created a big confusion which lasts even today lol. And on top of that he even brought in the non-Italians lol
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Antiliar wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:20 pm Lee Mags after DiFronzo, then Joe Andriacchi. Capezio definitely came after Accardo and before Cerone.
Where does Pete nose fit into the picture? After joe builder? Did John's brother ever even overseen the elmwood park?

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Villain wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:03 am
Antiliar wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:29 pm
We agree that Mangano was probably a made guy and a leader, but all I'm saying is that at this time we can't prove it. It's all educated guessing, and sometimes guesses can be wrong.
Maybe you will also agree with me on this, but I think that at the beginning Capone absorbed and made too many people for such as a short term as boss, and created a big confusion which lasts even today lol. And on top of that he even brought in the non-Italians lol
Since he was boss only from portions of 1967 to part of 1969, who do you think he made during that time period?
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JIGGS wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:56 am
Antiliar wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:20 pm Lee Mags after DiFronzo, then Joe Andriacchi. Capezio definitely came after Accardo and before Cerone.
Where does Pete nose fit into the picture? After joe builder? Did John's brother ever even overseen the elmwood park?

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I think the last guy to inform who mentioned him called Pete Di Fronzo the "street boss of the entire Outfit." It sounds like acting boss and his brother was still the official boss. Some think he was just passing around his brother's orders or advice, but street boss sounds like he had some authority of his own. Maybe John had the Ricca/Accardo position of "The Man" and Pete had the Giancana position of "The Boss," as an informant from the 1960s put it.
That's as much as I can tell you. Nothing more has come out.
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Antiliar wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:22 am
Villain wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:03 am
Antiliar wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:29 pm
We agree that Mangano was probably a made guy and a leader, but all I'm saying is that at this time we can't prove it. It's all educated guessing, and sometimes guesses can be wrong.
Maybe you will also agree with me on this, but I think that at the beginning Capone absorbed and made too many people for such as a short term as boss, and created a big confusion which lasts even today lol. And on top of that he even brought in the non-Italians lol
Since he was boss only from portions of 1967 to part of 1969, who do you think he made during that time period?
I think you misread my post, I wrote Capone, not Cerone
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Antiliar wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:28 am
JIGGS wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:56 am
Antiliar wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:20 pm Lee Mags after DiFronzo, then Joe Andriacchi. Capezio definitely came after Accardo and before Cerone.
Where does Pete nose fit into the picture? After joe builder? Did John's brother ever even overseen the elmwood park?

JIGGS
I think the last guy to inform who mentioned him called Pete Di Fronzo the "street boss of the entire Outfit." It sounds like acting boss and his brother was still the official boss. Some think he was just passing around his brother's orders or advice, but street boss sounds like he had some authority of his own. Maybe John had the Ricca/Accardo position of "The Man" and Pete had the Giancana position of "The Boss," as an informant from the 1960s put it.
That's as much as I can tell you. Nothing more has come out.
What I am asking is if brother Peter ever hold position of captain of elmwood park crew? If he did would it a been before magnifichio and joe builder, after them guys, or never?

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I don't think he ever did, certainly not before either of those guys.
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Villain wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:50 am
Antiliar wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:22 am
Villain wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:03 am
Antiliar wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:29 pm
We agree that Mangano was probably a made guy and a leader, but all I'm saying is that at this time we can't prove it. It's all educated guessing, and sometimes guesses can be wrong.
Maybe you will also agree with me on this, but I think that at the beginning Capone absorbed and made too many people for such as a short term as boss, and created a big confusion which lasts even today lol. And on top of that he even brought in the non-Italians lol
Since he was boss only from portions of 1967 to part of 1969, who do you think he made during that time period?
I think you misread my post, I wrote Capone, not Cerone
Oops. My bad. Was in a hurry. LOL.
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JIGGS wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:46 pm
Antiliar wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:28 am
JIGGS wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:56 am
Antiliar wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:20 pm Lee Mags after DiFronzo, then Joe Andriacchi. Capezio definitely came after Accardo and before Cerone.
Where does Pete nose fit into the picture? After joe builder? Did John's brother ever even overseen the elmwood park?

JIGGS
I think the last guy to inform who mentioned him called Pete Di Fronzo the "street boss of the entire Outfit." It sounds like acting boss and his brother was still the official boss. Some think he was just passing around his brother's orders or advice, but street boss sounds like he had some authority of his own. Maybe John had the Ricca/Accardo position of "The Man" and Pete had the Giancana position of "The Boss," as an informant from the 1960s put it.
That's as much as I can tell you. Nothing more has come out.
What I am asking is if brother Peter ever hold position of captain of elmwood park crew? If he did would it a been before magnifichio and joe builder, after them guys, or never?

JIGGS
I'm not aware of Pete ever being captain of the EP crew.
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Antiliar wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:55 pm
JIGGS wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:46 pm
Antiliar wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:28 am
JIGGS wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:56 am
Antiliar wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:20 pm Lee Mags after DiFronzo, then Joe Andriacchi. Capezio definitely came after Accardo and before Cerone.
Where does Pete nose fit into the picture? After joe builder? Did John's brother ever even overseen the elmwood park?

JIGGS
I think the last guy to inform who mentioned him called Pete Di Fronzo the "street boss of the entire Outfit." It sounds like acting boss and his brother was still the official boss. Some think he was just passing around his brother's orders or advice, but street boss sounds like he had some authority of his own. Maybe John had the Ricca/Accardo position of "The Man" and Pete had the Giancana position of "The Boss," as an informant from the 1960s put it.
That's as much as I can tell you. Nothing more has come out.
What I am asking is if brother Peter ever hold position of captain of elmwood park crew? If he did would it a been before magnifichio and joe builder, after them guys, or never?

JIGGS
I'm not aware of Pete ever being captain of the EP crew.
Thanks any way guy. Your one of the good ones.

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