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By the way, I just remembered a curiosity about Joe Profaci’s conviction record: many years ago I read a book called "Shadows in the sea" (not a mafia one, but a zoology one about sharks) which mentioned an incident when Profaci was fined 8000 $ for a vegetable oil fraud (mixing shark liver oil with cheap vegetable oil). I just saw this book online, here is the quote:
It was a big and vicious racket. Using powerful persuasive techniques,
the racketeers terrorized many packers and dealers. G. S. Goldhammer,
director of the FDA's Division of Regulatory Management, Bureau of
Enforcement, estimates that the racketeers had perpetrated a nearly
$1,000,000 fraud before the racket was smashed. And a top-level racke-
teer had been caught in the shark-baited trap. He was Joseph Profaci,
reputedly "untouchable" crime boss. He rarely appeared in public, let
alone in a courtroom. But the FDA brought him in. He pleaded guilty
and was fined $8,000. When Profaci died of cancer in 1962, U.S. At-
torney General Robert F. Kennedy assessed the FDA's catch. Profaci,
the Attorney General said, had been "the most powerful" figure in the
U.S. underworld.
https://archive.org/stream/shadowsinsea ... o_djvu.txt
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Bufalino didn’t do any time until he was like 75. Then he spent like 10 of his last 15 years in prison.
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Amershire_Ed wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:34 pm Bufalino didn’t do any time until he was like 75. Then he spent like 10 of his last 15 years in prison.
Just think of what he could have revealed if he had turned.
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Paul Castellano. The feds never got to ol' Paulie, too bad he died in that car incident. Poor guy just wanted a steak dinner.
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DiFronzo did do time, but not sure if he was boss yet. His conviction was overturned on appeal. I'm pretty sure he was Boss at the time.
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The UPI article I just read from Jan 10 1992 the day the indictments came down said that DiFronzo is and has been the street boss of daily operations since about Jan of 1991, with Sam Carlisi in semi retirement. But there is other info out there that says Carlisi was still Boss at the time and DiFronzo still Underboss.
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Tony Accardo, Joe Profaci, Joe Bonanno. John Scalish too, but I'm unsure if he did any time or not early on.
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eboli wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:21 am Tony Accardo, Joe Profaci, Joe Bonanno. John Scalish too, but I'm unsure if he did any time or not early on.
During the 1940s i think that Accardo spent only few days in jail and that was it.
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Villain wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:57 am
eboli wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:21 am Tony Accardo, Joe Profaci, Joe Bonanno. John Scalish too, but I'm unsure if he did any time or not early on.
During the 1940s i think that Accardo spent only few days in jail and that was it.
I believe it was only one night while waiting for the Judge the next morning.
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Confederate wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:25 am
Villain wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:57 am
eboli wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:21 am Tony Accardo, Joe Profaci, Joe Bonanno. John Scalish too, but I'm unsure if he did any time or not early on.
During the 1940s i think that Accardo spent only few days in jail and that was it.
I believe it was only one night while waiting for the Judge the next morning.
Yeah you might be right, although he was convicted during the early 60s but later the case was dropped.

Many of these fellas' alleged elusiveness should be taken with few grains of salt, meaning they could've ratted or something like that
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Frank wrote:Costello and Ricca both did time while they were boss. Did Gambino, Luchese, Gagliano or Profaci ever do time before they were boss, oh Mangano too
It's about bosses dying in prison. Paul Ricca died a free man. Costello, even though he wasn't boss anymore when he died, also died a free man.
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Lupara wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:44 am
Frank wrote:Costello and Ricca both did time while they were boss. Did Gambino, Luchese, Gagliano or Profaci ever do time before they were boss, oh Mangano too
It's about bosses dying in prison. Paul Ricca died a free man. Costello, even though he wasn't boss anymore when he died, also died a free man.
For my money, COSTELLO was one of the savviest and smartest guys around in this life, ever!
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Died in bed with his shoes off at 83! Make untold millions in his life and held on to it, invested it in literally Wall Street properties. Made most of his cash through bootlegging, slots, bookmaking and casinos, held the “boss” seat for years, and was a “classy” guy buy all accounts of him! ...... a RACKETEER more than a GANGSTER! He was some guy!

Lived on Central Park South and Sands Point.... (two of the most costly and upscale locales in NY) and never hurt guys for no reason! Class guy!
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maxiestern11 wrote:
Lupara wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:44 am
Frank wrote:Costello and Ricca both did time while they were boss. Did Gambino, Luchese, Gagliano or Profaci ever do time before they were boss, oh Mangano too
It's about bosses dying in prison. Paul Ricca died a free man. Costello, even though he wasn't boss anymore when he died, also died a free man.
For my money, COSTELLO was one of the savviest and smartest guys around in this life, ever!
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Died in bed with his shoes off at 83! Make untold millions in his life and held on to it, invested it in literally Wall Street properties. Made most of his cash through bootlegging, slots, bookmaking and casinos, held the “boss” seat for years, and was a “classy” guy buy all accounts of him! ...... a RACKETEER more than a GANGSTER! He was some guy!

Lived on Central Park South and Sands Point.... (two of the most costly and upscale locales in NY) and never hurt guys for no reason! Class guy!
Yeah Costello is one of the most intriguing crime figures. Many of the Genovese oldtimers are (except for Genovese himself). Costello was much more a business man than an actual criminal, definitely not more a criminal than Kennedy Sr. and many elite crooks who ended up running the country.
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Lupara wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:15 am
maxiestern11 wrote:
Lupara wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:44 am
Frank wrote:Costello and Ricca both did time while they were boss. Did Gambino, Luchese, Gagliano or Profaci ever do time before they were boss, oh Mangano too
It's about bosses dying in prison. Paul Ricca died a free man. Costello, even though he wasn't boss anymore when he died, also died a free man.
For my money, COSTELLO was one of the savviest and smartest guys around in this life, ever!
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Died in bed with his shoes off at 83! Make untold millions in his life and held on to it, invested it in literally Wall Street properties. Made most of his cash through bootlegging, slots, bookmaking and casinos, held the “boss” seat for years, and was a “classy” guy buy all accounts of him! ...... a RACKETEER more than a GANGSTER! He was some guy!

Lived on Central Park South and Sands Point.... (two of the most costly and upscale locales in NY) and never hurt guys for no reason! Class guy!
Yeah Costello is one of the most intriguing crime figures. Many of the Genovese oldtimers are (except for Genovese himself). Costello was much more a business man than an actual criminal, definitely not more a criminal than Kennedy Sr. and many elite crooks.
Lol.... agreed
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Lupara wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:44 am
Frank wrote:Costello and Ricca both did time while they were boss. Did Gambino, Luchese, Gagliano or Profaci ever do time before they were boss, oh Mangano too
It's about bosses dying in prison. Paul Ricca died a free man. Costello, even though he wasn't boss anymore when he died, also died a free man.
Yes thanks sorry
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