Gambino Boss

[bert]

I think acting boss is the same as acting captain, it is someone stepping in to fill a spot until the person who steps aside is able to step back into the spot. Sharing the boss spot or rotating bosses is another thing.

[slimshady_007]

Back to the topic of Mannino, if he’s running day to day for Cefalu then would he be in the position of underboss?

[Angelo Santino]

Cali was the UnderBoss.


As for this piece it not exactly what Capeci said.


Pogo

I thought I read that Cali was actually Consigliere with Mannino as Underboss. Has that been completely discounted and confirmed he was Underboss? If so then Mannino replaced him? Did Mannino go from capo or consig to Under? I thought Mannino had been under all along.

Thanks for the clarification.

[Angelo Santino]

I forget where I read it, but Gotti said that all " those bullshit acting positions", started with Gambino. Most likely in the late 50s, early 60s. Carlo was acting for a couple years, right?

He called him a " backdoor motherfucker" if I recall correctly...

I don't think it started with Carlo Gambino, I think he was boss at a time when "acting" positions started being utilized more and more. I would credit the Genovese Family with all the acting positions but had it been Bonanno rather than Genovese getting locked up at this time the Bonannos may have done it instead. After Anastasia, Gambino was made interim boss for a 3 year period (commission orders) and then became permanent.

Really from 1930 to 1960 there was very little turnover. Bosses down to captain stayed in those positions for decades. After 1960 it was a whole other ballgame. The Mafia up until that point could just deny and try and operate in secret, it wasn't set up to withstand a law enforcement investigation focused on the organization as a whole. Prior to that, you could order a murder and go to a restaurant and be seen with people at the time it went down and have instant deniability. But once the atmosphere changed it became more of a caste system with buffers implemented, towards the FBI as well as other groups.

The chain of command was Vito Genovese, Boss; Anthony Strollo, Underboss; Michele Miranda, Consig. Then Vito went away and Strollo was killed. It went to Catena as Underboss and acting boss, Eboli as Capo and Acting Underboss. Or something very close.

[Pogo The Clown]

I thought I read that Cali was actually Consigliere with Mannino as Underboss. Has that been completely discounted and confirmed he was Underboss? If so then Mannino replaced him? Did Mannino go from capo or consig to Under? I thought Mannino had been under all along.

Thanks for the clarification.

Cali was the UnderBoss. This has been confirmed by a few LE sources as well as Capeci. When Cali was alive Manninos rank was Captain. It is unknown if Mannino has replaced him at this time. Capeci has not named him as such.

In a surprise move in the wake of the murder of underboss Francesco (Frank) Cali, the Gambino family has tapped a tough, old capo who once punched John Gotti in the face and got away with it, to serve in the crime family's Administration, law enforcement sources tell Gang Land.

The sources say that 79-year-old Michael (Mickey Boy) Paradiso, who has spent about 25 years behind bars during a crime spree that's lasted 55 plus years, will technically serve as the family's consigliere, or number three man in the family hierarchy. Paradiso will serve alongside two powerful members of the family's Sicilian faction, Domenico (Italian Dom) Cefalu, 72, and Lorenzo Mannino, 60.

Gang Land's sources waffle on the specific ranks of Cefalu, whom the FBI has carried as the family's acting boss since 2011, and Mannino, who has been identified by the feds in recent court filings only as a "powerful capo." Some law enforcers say Cefalu is still the boss, but others say Mannino is the real leader right now, even if he doesn't have the official title.

[Frank]

The whole official boss/ acting boss/ street boss talk is very confusing. I remember reading that the Gambinos had Jack D’Amico as street boss and Nick Corozzo as acting boss back in the mid 2000’s. So, was Jack street boss for Corozzo? Also, there’s no point in naming pete as official boss since he had no say over the family’s activities following his arrest. Ik he’s boss in name only and i get why people still recognize him as official boss, but I doubt ANYONE on the streets views him as the boss. I’d say that if ur official boss and u get a life sentence and lose all influence on the street, ur reign is over.

I feel some deja vu. The Mannino situation is similar to the Nick Corozzo situation of the mid 2000s. Both powerful Capos. As it turned out Jackie D'Amico was the acting boss. Nick Corozzo was never boss or acting boss. Mannino's situation is a little different, in that Cali's position needs to be filled. There is the possibility that Mannino could be part of the 3 man panel with Juliano and Gurino or that he just doesn't want the underboss position.

[slimshady_007]

The whole official boss/ acting boss/ street boss talk is very confusing. I remember reading that the Gambinos had Jack D’Amico as street boss and Nick Corozzo as acting boss back in the mid 2000’s. So, was Jack street boss for Corozzo? Also, there’s no point in naming pete as official boss since he had no say over the family’s activities following his arrest. Ik he’s boss in name only and i get why people still recognize him as official boss, but I doubt ANYONE on the streets views him as the boss. I’d say that if ur official boss and u get a life sentence and lose all influence on the street, ur reign is over.

I feel some deja vu. The Mannino situation is similar to the Nick Corozzo situation of the mid 2000s. Both powerful Capos. As it turned out Jackie D'Amico was the acting boss. Nick Corozzo was never boss or acting boss. Mannino's situation is a little different, in that Cali's position needs to be filled. There is the possibility that Mannino could be part of the 3 man panel with Juliano and Gurino or that he just doesn't want the underboss position.

That’s a very plausible possibility. Good post.

[Frank]

The whole official boss/ acting boss/ street boss talk is very confusing. I remember reading that the Gambinos had Jack D’Amico as street boss and Nick Corozzo as acting boss back in the mid 2000’s. So, was Jack street boss for Corozzo? Also, there’s no point in naming pete as official boss since he had no say over the family’s activities following his arrest. Ik he’s boss in name only and i get why people still recognize him as official boss, but I doubt ANYONE on the streets views him as the boss. I’d say that if ur official boss and u get a life sentence and lose all influence on the street, ur reign is over.

I feel some deja vu. The Mannino situation is similar to the Nick Corozzo situation of the mid 2000s. Both powerful Capos. As it turned out Jackie D'Amico was the acting boss. Nick Corozzo was never boss or acting boss. Mannino's situation is a little different, in that Cali's position needs to be filled. There is the possibility that Mannino could be part of the 3 man panel with Juliano and Gurino or that he just doesn't want the underboss position.

That’s a very plausible possibility. Good post.

Thanks. There is a reason LE hasn't come straight out and declared Mannino as the new underboss or as Felice has posted that Mannino has been underboss and Cali consigliere. First it's probably too soon for them to have that info with Cali only being dead for 2 months. I was just throwing out there a couple possibilities that could be. Until anything is confirmed, I would just go with Underboss vacant, and Mannino still a high ranking Capo I would believe, if the 3 man panel is still active, there would be a strong possibility that they would be filling the void.I would think Mannino would have been a strong candidate to replace John Gambino on that panel.But who knows till more info comes out. Paradiso came out of nowhere to be consigliere. I'm not saying Mannino isn't the acting or official Underboss, but there is no confirmation that he is. One thing you have to remember you could change these black hand official lineage charts numerous times if you believed everything you came across on the net.That is why it needs confirmation by a reliable source. This last article just basically mis interpreted or mis quoted what Capeci had written a few weeks ago.

[TommyGambino]

Bullshit article ffs

[Fughedaboutit]

Why would anyone be a highly-visible street boss if it didn't come with an extra money? Might as well be a fucking unpaid intern.

Status I guess? lol

[Wiseguy]

8 minute interview with Capeci. Among other things, he talks about how Cali...was...the...underboss. So people can actually watch the words come out of his mouth and not start more threads or question a point that was answered some time ago.


https://www.thirteen.org/metrofocus/201 ... -comeback/

[Frank]

8 minute interview with Capeci. Among other things, he talks about how Cali...was...the...underboss. So people can actually watch the words come out of his mouth and not start more threads or question a point that was answered some time ago.


https://www.thirteen.org/metrofocus/201 ... -comeback/

Thanks nice