Article on Long John Martorano's son

[Wiseguy]

This Philly hustler, once called a ‘drug kingpin’ and spent 30 years in prison, now owns a CBD cafe

https://www.philly.com/business/marijua ... 90216.html

[slimshady_007]

It was so fucked up what happened to long john’s son. Glad hes out

[Pogo The Clown]

Yeah a drug trafficking murderer. Poor baby.


Pogo

[Pete]

Yeah a drug trafficking murderer. Poor baby.


Pogo

Who did he kill? He was always labeled the longest serving non violent offender

[Pogo The Clown]

He was the shooter in the Chelsais Bouras and Jannette Curo hit in 1981.


Pogo

[SILENT PARTNERZ]

He was the shooter in the Chelsais Bouras and Jannette Curo hit in 1981.


Pogo

Any idea why he never got made? Did they pull them off the streets before he got a chance to get his button?

[Fughedaboutit]

Yeah a drug trafficking murderer. Poor baby.


Pogo

Who did he kill? He was always labeled the longest serving non violent offender

He was never convicted and it was never proven. It was mentioned in a book that he could have been one of the shooters since the contract went through his dad I believe it was in Blood and Honor maybe?

[chin_gigante]

I think the theory is that the shooters were supposed to be George Martorano and Frank Vadino. In Breaking the Mob, Friel writes that one of the plans to kill Harry Riccobene was for Long John Martorano and Vadino to ambush him in an abandoned lot, indicating that at least Vadino was trusted by Martorano to carry out a contract. In his book, Ralph Natale also states that Vadino and George Martorano carried it out (though that's Natale talking about something that happened while he was in jail, so...) Friel also states that one of the shooters fired shoots into the air while the other one opened fire on Bouras and Curro.
IIRC, DelGiorno said that he, Faffy Iannarella and Pat Spirito were supposed to be the hit team until they got taken off it for some reason but got their chance to earn their buttons a few months later with John Calabrese.

[Fughedaboutit]

I think the theory is that the shooters were supposed to be George Martorano and Frank Vadino. In Breaking the Mob, Friel writes that one of the plans to kill Harry Riccobene was for Long John Martorano and Vadino to ambush him in an abandoned lot, indicating that at least Vadino was trusted by Martorano to carry out a contract. In his book, Ralph Natale also states that Vadino and George Martorano carried it out (though that's Natale talking about something that happened while he was in jail, so...) Friel also states that one of the shooters fired shoots into the air while the other one opened fire on Bouras and Curro.
IIRC, DelGiorno said that he, Faffy Iannarella and Pat Spirito were supposed to be the hit team until they got taken off it for some reason but got their chance to earn their buttons a few months later with John Calabrese.

Like I said, a theory and nothing was ever proven. Yet Pogo comes in here and states it as if it is fact.

[Pogo The Clown]

Almost all mob murders are "unproven". Doesn't mean we don't who was behind them. You are just being a typical trolling asshole like you always are.


Pogo

[dack2001]

I think you are both right here. Long John was identified as the one who put the hit in motion on orders from Scarfo. Friel is pretty convinced that Long John's son and Frank Vadino were the shooters but they were never charged. Vadino was a trusted associate of Albert Daidone and Long John and Natale. Natale may have been told who did the hit but he can't be trusted at all.

That all said, Friel's theory that it is young martorano is based upon some supposition, to say the least. No one involved on the plot identified both as the shooters. Remember Neil Ferber? Well, law enforcement thought he was a killer for a long time as well based upon shitty information and bad police work. It makes sense that someone close to Long John would be used as the shooter but it also strains credulity that he would use his son to do a shooting in front of his mother. Really risky to say the least. I think people should have more than supposition and guesses before they brand this guy a heinous case closed killer who got away with murder but he can be referred to as a suspect in the shooting for sure.

[Fughedaboutit]

I think you are both right here. Long John was identified as the one who put the hit in motion on orders from Scarfo. Friel is pretty convinced that Long John's son and Frank Vadino were the shooters but they were never charged. Vadino was a trusted associate of Albert Daidone and Long John and Natale. Natale may have been told who did the hit but he can't be trusted at all.

That all said, Friel's theory that it is young martorano is based upon some supposition, to say the least. No one involved on the plot identified both as the shooters. Remember Neil Ferber? Well, law enforcement thought he was a killer for a long time as well based upon shitty information and bad police work. It makes sense that someone close to Long John would be used as the shooter but it also strains credulity that he would use his son to do a shooting in front of his mother. Really risky to say the least. I think people should have more than supposition and guesses before they brand this guy a heinous case closed killer who got away with murder but he can be referred to as a suspect in the shooting for sure.

Yeah there was nothing clear, so it was incorrect to state it as if it was fact and then some posters who dont know any better take it as fact as well.

Either way, the guy was given a ridiculous amount of time for what the charges were.

[slimshady_007]

I think you are both right here. Long John was identified as the one who put the hit in motion on orders from Scarfo. Friel is pretty convinced that Long John's son and Frank Vadino were the shooters but they were never charged. Vadino was a trusted associate of Albert Daidone and Long John and Natale. Natale may have been told who did the hit but he can't be trusted at all.

That all said, Friel's theory that it is young martorano is based upon some supposition, to say the least. No one involved on the plot identified both as the shooters. Remember Neil Ferber? Well, law enforcement thought he was a killer for a long time as well based upon shitty information and bad police work. It makes sense that someone close to Long John would be used as the shooter but it also strains credulity that he would use his son to do a shooting in front of his mother. Really risky to say the least. I think people should have more than supposition and guesses before they brand this guy a heinous case closed killer who got away with murder but he can be referred to as a suspect in the shooting for sure.

Yeah there was nothing clear, so it was incorrect to state it as if it was fact and then some posters who dont know any better take it as fact as well.

Either way, the guy was given a ridiculous amount of time for what the charges were.

He got a life sentence after pleading guilty to drug charges. I’ve seen guys get much less time for a violent crime. Bs sentence but atleast he’s finally out.

[Pogo The Clown]

He was implicated in the murder by a LE source and a made member informant. That is proof enough by the standards we go by on the forums unless there is other information contradicting it. I mean we are not in a court of law here.


Using Fughedaboutit logic we can never state as fact that Carlo Gambino, Al Capone or Angelo Bruno ever ordered a murder since they were never convicted or even charged with it. We can't even say they were mobsters since that was never "proven". But of course it is not about that. It is the fact that I said it and he has an obsession with me and so saw it as an opportunity to start shit like he always does. Notice he has never said shit when other posters make the same statements.


Pogo

[Fughedaboutit]

He was implicated in the murder by a LE source and a made member informant. That is proof enough by the standards we go by on the forums unless there is other information contradicting it. I mean we are not in a court of law here.


Using Fughedaboutit logic we can never state as fact that Carlo Gambino, Al Capone or Angelo Bruno ever ordered a murder since they were never convicted or even charged with it. We can't even say they were mobsters since that was never "proven". But of course it is not about that. It is the fact that I said it and he has an obsession with me and so saw it as an opportunity to start shit like he always does. Notice he has never said shit when other posters make the same statements.


Pogo

You are talking about bosses accused of multiple murders...Capone, Gambino, and Bruno against a single claim against an associate?

You are comparing 3 of the most well known bosses...to an associate...man you are really grasping. It is actually pathetic. LMAO

Talk about obsession. wow, you really are obsessed.