Chicago Making Ceremonies

[Villain]

On the Boss or capo thing...

I would add that in Chicago, the politicians are like, another species of gangster. And in Chicago, the political bosses, are/ were, called bosses.

It was probably just adapted from the heavy interaction with politics.... just a thought...

Nicely said

[Snakes]

And dont forget the capo squadrone term

In addition to the thread which was made by Snakes...

In 1928 Al Capone became a made member and instantly was elevated to capo decina and his sponsor was possibly Joe Masseria

In 1939 Sam Giancana became member before he went to prison. His sponsors were Louie Campagna and Frank Nitto. It is possible that Giancana had a similar faith as Capone, meaning after his release from prison, he was in charge of several areas or districts which in fact was the power of a capo or crew boss

In 1945 Butch Blasi allegedly became a made member and his sponsor was James Belcastro

Also heres something about the type of rituals or ceremonies which took place during the 60s. Ive already made a post about this some time ago but still here we go again...

This document is from 1963, and one secret informant known only as T-4 indicates that he wasn’t aware of any ritual or taking an oath regarding the membership for the Chicago “family”. He also indicates that one member is sponsored by a district boss or someone from higher stature and then, the new member was simply placed under the payroll of the same boss from whom he worked for. Another interesting thing is that this same informant was aware of all the money flow within the syndicate, especially that one half of the proceedings went “out West”, meaning the top administration from the West Side, and the rest went to the made guy and his district boss.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 9&tab=page

Another document and informant from 1963, states the same thing, meaning he wasn’t aware of any oaths or rituals during making ceremonies. Even though this might be the same previous informant, here we can see that he was close to Chuck English and that the informant’s father was a member of the old Capone organization and possible member of Cosa Nostra. The informant was also aware that his father wasn’t telling him everything, still he felt that with his childhood and current association with Chicago’s criminal element, he would’ve heard regarding some rituals or oaths.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 3&tab=page (page 3 and 4)


Now, here comes one detailed information from 1964 and another informant, named T-1, regarding the induction of new members within Chicago’s family and this time, he describes a detailed induction ceremony, where again the future member is usually sponsored by his boss or maybe few couple of friend who were already in “The Life”, also he talks about that same candidate being told a month earlier on where and which time he will be picked up and he also talks about a ceremony where a banquet was held and the new member took an oath of secrecy which included from that same moment, no outsider, nor mother or sister or brother can come before his colleagues in “The Life”. The informant also gave an example which occurred previous of 1963, or should I say in 1956. So, on the next page the informant gives us as an example the induction ceremony of two Outfit members which occurred in 1956, and later he also explains that for one to be member needs to be primary Italian, not Sicilian. In the end he talks about the non-Italians and their stature within the Chicago “family”.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 0&tab=page (page 10 and 11)

Thanks for this. I may make a section for pre-1960s inductions and lump them all together due to their being less information concerning this individuals.

[Villain]

And dont forget the capo squadrone term

In addition to the thread which was made by Snakes...

In 1928 Al Capone became a made member and instantly was elevated to capo decina and his sponsor was possibly Joe Masseria

In 1939 Sam Giancana became member before he went to prison. His sponsors were Louie Campagna and Frank Nitto. It is possible that Giancana had a similar faith as Capone, meaning after his release from prison, he was in charge of several areas or districts which in fact was the power of a capo or crew boss

In 1945 Butch Blasi allegedly became a made member and his sponsor was James Belcastro

Also heres something about the type of rituals or ceremonies which took place during the 60s. Ive already made a post about this some time ago but still here we go again...

This document is from 1963, and one secret informant known only as T-4 indicates that he wasn’t aware of any ritual or taking an oath regarding the membership for the Chicago “family”. He also indicates that one member is sponsored by a district boss or someone from higher stature and then, the new member was simply placed under the payroll of the same boss from whom he worked for. Another interesting thing is that this same informant was aware of all the money flow within the syndicate, especially that one half of the proceedings went “out West”, meaning the top administration from the West Side, and the rest went to the made guy and his district boss.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 9&tab=page

Another document and informant from 1963, states the same thing, meaning he wasn’t aware of any oaths or rituals during making ceremonies. Even though this might be the same previous informant, here we can see that he was close to Chuck English and that the informant’s father was a member of the old Capone organization and possible member of Cosa Nostra. The informant was also aware that his father wasn’t telling him everything, still he felt that with his childhood and current association with Chicago’s criminal element, he would’ve heard regarding some rituals or oaths.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 3&tab=page (page 3 and 4)


Now, here comes one detailed information from 1964 and another informant, named T-1, regarding the induction of new members within Chicago’s family and this time, he describes a detailed induction ceremony, where again the future member is usually sponsored by his boss or maybe few couple of friend who were already in “The Life”, also he talks about that same candidate being told a month earlier on where and which time he will be picked up and he also talks about a ceremony where a banquet was held and the new member took an oath of secrecy which included from that same moment, no outsider, nor mother or sister or brother can come before his colleagues in “The Life”. The informant also gave an example which occurred previous of 1963, or should I say in 1956. So, on the next page the informant gives us as an example the induction ceremony of two Outfit members which occurred in 1956, and later he also explains that for one to be member needs to be primary Italian, not Sicilian. In the end he talks about the non-Italians and their stature within the Chicago “family”.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 0&tab=page (page 10 and 11)

Thanks for this. I may make a section for pre-1960s inductions and lump them all together due to their being less information concerning this individuals.

Thats a good idea.

Btw i forgot to ask you...the 76/77 situation with the younger DeMonte and Arrigo, is the same one when DiVarco told to one of them that he or they were going to be made when the books get opened???

[Snakes]

And dont forget the capo squadrone term

In addition to the thread which was made by Snakes...

In 1928 Al Capone became a made member and instantly was elevated to capo decina and his sponsor was possibly Joe Masseria

In 1939 Sam Giancana became member before he went to prison. His sponsors were Louie Campagna and Frank Nitto. It is possible that Giancana had a similar faith as Capone, meaning after his release from prison, he was in charge of several areas or districts which in fact was the power of a capo or crew boss

In 1945 Butch Blasi allegedly became a made member and his sponsor was James Belcastro

Also heres something about the type of rituals or ceremonies which took place during the 60s. Ive already made a post about this some time ago but still here we go again...

This document is from 1963, and one secret informant known only as T-4 indicates that he wasn’t aware of any ritual or taking an oath regarding the membership for the Chicago “family”. He also indicates that one member is sponsored by a district boss or someone from higher stature and then, the new member was simply placed under the payroll of the same boss from whom he worked for. Another interesting thing is that this same informant was aware of all the money flow within the syndicate, especially that one half of the proceedings went “out West”, meaning the top administration from the West Side, and the rest went to the made guy and his district boss.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 9&tab=page

Another document and informant from 1963, states the same thing, meaning he wasn’t aware of any oaths or rituals during making ceremonies. Even though this might be the same previous informant, here we can see that he was close to Chuck English and that the informant’s father was a member of the old Capone organization and possible member of Cosa Nostra. The informant was also aware that his father wasn’t telling him everything, still he felt that with his childhood and current association with Chicago’s criminal element, he would’ve heard regarding some rituals or oaths.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 3&tab=page (page 3 and 4)


Now, here comes one detailed information from 1964 and another informant, named T-1, regarding the induction of new members within Chicago’s family and this time, he describes a detailed induction ceremony, where again the future member is usually sponsored by his boss or maybe few couple of friend who were already in “The Life”, also he talks about that same candidate being told a month earlier on where and which time he will be picked up and he also talks about a ceremony where a banquet was held and the new member took an oath of secrecy which included from that same moment, no outsider, nor mother or sister or brother can come before his colleagues in “The Life”. The informant also gave an example which occurred previous of 1963, or should I say in 1956. So, on the next page the informant gives us as an example the induction ceremony of two Outfit members which occurred in 1956, and later he also explains that for one to be member needs to be primary Italian, not Sicilian. In the end he talks about the non-Italians and their stature within the Chicago “family”.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 0&tab=page (page 10 and 11)

Thanks for this. I may make a section for pre-1960s inductions and lump them all together due to their being less information concerning this individuals.

Thats a good idea.

Btw i forgot to ask you...the 76/77 situation with the younger DeMonte and Arrigo, is the same one when DiVarco told to one of them that he or they were going to be made when the books get opened???

Yes. It appears that Arrigo may have been an informant years before he started officially cooperating too, although I believe he was on the shelf by that time and could not appreciably contribute to any active cases.

[Villain]

And dont forget the capo squadrone term

In addition to the thread which was made by Snakes...

In 1928 Al Capone became a made member and instantly was elevated to capo decina and his sponsor was possibly Joe Masseria

In 1939 Sam Giancana became member before he went to prison. His sponsors were Louie Campagna and Frank Nitto. It is possible that Giancana had a similar faith as Capone, meaning after his release from prison, he was in charge of several areas or districts which in fact was the power of a capo or crew boss

In 1945 Butch Blasi allegedly became a made member and his sponsor was James Belcastro

Also heres something about the type of rituals or ceremonies which took place during the 60s. Ive already made a post about this some time ago but still here we go again...

This document is from 1963, and one secret informant known only as T-4 indicates that he wasn’t aware of any ritual or taking an oath regarding the membership for the Chicago “family”. He also indicates that one member is sponsored by a district boss or someone from higher stature and then, the new member was simply placed under the payroll of the same boss from whom he worked for. Another interesting thing is that this same informant was aware of all the money flow within the syndicate, especially that one half of the proceedings went “out West”, meaning the top administration from the West Side, and the rest went to the made guy and his district boss.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 9&tab=page

Another document and informant from 1963, states the same thing, meaning he wasn’t aware of any oaths or rituals during making ceremonies. Even though this might be the same previous informant, here we can see that he was close to Chuck English and that the informant’s father was a member of the old Capone organization and possible member of Cosa Nostra. The informant was also aware that his father wasn’t telling him everything, still he felt that with his childhood and current association with Chicago’s criminal element, he would’ve heard regarding some rituals or oaths.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 3&tab=page (page 3 and 4)


Now, here comes one detailed information from 1964 and another informant, named T-1, regarding the induction of new members within Chicago’s family and this time, he describes a detailed induction ceremony, where again the future member is usually sponsored by his boss or maybe few couple of friend who were already in “The Life”, also he talks about that same candidate being told a month earlier on where and which time he will be picked up and he also talks about a ceremony where a banquet was held and the new member took an oath of secrecy which included from that same moment, no outsider, nor mother or sister or brother can come before his colleagues in “The Life”. The informant also gave an example which occurred previous of 1963, or should I say in 1956. So, on the next page the informant gives us as an example the induction ceremony of two Outfit members which occurred in 1956, and later he also explains that for one to be member needs to be primary Italian, not Sicilian. In the end he talks about the non-Italians and their stature within the Chicago “family”.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 0&tab=page (page 10 and 11)

Thanks for this. I may make a section for pre-1960s inductions and lump them all together due to their being less information concerning this individuals.

Thats a good idea.

Btw i forgot to ask you...the 76/77 situation with the younger DeMonte and Arrigo, is the same one when DiVarco told to one of them that he or they were going to be made when the books get opened???

Yes. It appears that Arrigo may have been an informant years before he started officially cooperating too, although I believe he was on the shelf by that time and could not appreciably contribute to any active cases.

Thanks. The whole opening books situation at the time brings a lot of questions

[Snakes]

It does but DiVarco apparently said they would make an exception for Arrigo considering his "closeness" to DiVarco. I imagine that he was not the only one. Additionally, "many years" could be construed as anything from 3 to 100, depending on the frequency of prior ceremonies. At any rate, it looks like they decided to make them less and less frequent as time went on.

[SonnyBlackstein]

Confed's point was well worth making and the opposite of 'nit-picking'.

The term boss vs Capodecina in the LCN world contains a world if difference in fact and implication.
Chicago is the bastard child and uses otherwise commonly know and understood terms in a very different fashion.
This deserves attention and his point is worth making.
Capo, Capodecina, Caporegime, skipper, lieutenant are interchangeable. Boss is not. Not one button in NYC has ever referred to his Capo as Boss, the same as not one associate has ever refereed to a button that way (when both using correct LCN parlance).
And he was right in making that distinction.
My opinion.

"Not one button in NYC has ever referred to his Capo as Boss" <-- And you know this how?

On top of my head I can recall an informant calling Thomas "Tommy Palmer" Greco a boss even though he was not a head of a borgata, but you are free to believe what you want to believe.

I specifically stated “when.. using correct LCN parlance” to dismiss the not relevant occasion of when someone uses the term, incorrectly.
It’s incorrect because a soldier or Capo are not ‘Bosses’.
Just as stating a button man is an associate of OC because he literally is associated with OC, he very clearly is not an associate, a Capo who is ‘the Boss’ of a crew of buttons or a button who is ‘the Boss’ of a crew of associates neither is, using correct parlance ‘the boss’.
The distinction is important because the terms used have specific meaning and using those terms incorrectly paints an incorrect picture.
So I’m not picking a fight for the sake of it. It is relevant.

Anti, you’re a great poster, it’s not personal nor a big issue, I just disagree with your reaction to Confed, that’s all.

[CabriniGreen]

I really think the term comes from Big City machine politics....

[Lupara]

When was Spilotro made? I suppose before he was sent to Vegas in '73?

[Villain]

When was Spilotro made? I suppose before he was sent to Vegas in '73?

I personally dont have any info on that but it is possible that he was made during the mid or late 60s. I believe that Spilotro arrived in Vegas around 71 or 72, while Rosenthal was already there by the late 60s. When Spilotro completely established himself in Vegas by 73, he also began spreading his influence even in Arizona together with Paul Schiro

In addition, Frank LaPorte was also made by Al Capone and we have one photo of the two of them followed by a bunch of other Capone gangsters. The photo was allegedly taken around September or October 1928 and according to sources this particular meeting had few main subjects...one was possibly the St Valentines Day massacre....another was probably the elevation of Jim Ammirato to boss of the Chicago Heights mob since the previous one Dominick Roberto fled to Italy by this time....and the third subject was possibly the induction ceremony of LaPorte

Also some sources say that Teets Battaglia was also made by Capone possibly around 1931

[Pete]

When was Spilotro made? I suppose before he was sent to Vegas in '73?

I personally dont have any info on that but it is possible that he was made during the mid or late 60s. I believe that Spilotro arrived in Vegas around 71 or 72, while Rosenthal was already there by the late 60s. When Spilotro completely established himself in Vegas by 73, he also began spreading his influence even in Arizona together with Paul Schiro

In addition, Frank LaPorte was also made by Al Capone and we have one photo of the two of them followed by a bunch of other Capone gangsters. The photo was allegedly taken around September or October 1928 and according to sources this particular meeting had few main subjects...one was possibly the St Valentines Day massacre....another was probably the elevation of Jim Ammirato to boss of the Chicago Heights mob since the previous one Dominick Roberto fled to Italy by this time....and the third subject was possibly the induction ceremony of LaPorte

Also some sources say that Teets Battaglia was also made by Capone possibly around 1931

Roemer gave a date for whatever it’s worth I’d have to check the spilotro book. I thought it was 65 or something like that

[Hellboy]

I was under the impression Capone didnt making ceremonies. I cant remember where, but I heard he just asked accardo a couple of questions and basically just told him, he was in

[Villain]

When was Spilotro made? I suppose before he was sent to Vegas in '73?

I personally dont have any info on that but it is possible that he was made during the mid or late 60s. I believe that Spilotro arrived in Vegas around 71 or 72, while Rosenthal was already there by the late 60s. When Spilotro completely established himself in Vegas by 73, he also began spreading his influence even in Arizona together with Paul Schiro

In addition, Frank LaPorte was also made by Al Capone and we have one photo of the two of them followed by a bunch of other Capone gangsters. The photo was allegedly taken around September or October 1928 and according to sources this particular meeting had few main subjects...one was possibly the St Valentines Day massacre....another was probably the elevation of Jim Ammirato to boss of the Chicago Heights mob since the previous one Dominick Roberto fled to Italy by this time....and the third subject was possibly the induction ceremony of LaPorte

Also some sources say that Teets Battaglia was also made by Capone possibly around 1931

Roemer gave a date for whatever it’s worth I’d have to check the spilotro book. I thought it was 65 or something like that

I think youre right since i wasnt sure if it was 65 or possibly the late 60s. Afterall we have him hanging around the big boys such Alderisio and Cerone after 65

[Villain]

I was under the impression Capone didnt making ceremonies. I cant remember where, but I heard he just asked accardo a couple of questions and basically just told him, he was in

Yes thats only one of the versions but there are possibly few more like for example he gave them some book to place their hands on and take the oath

[Hellboy]

Be cool to know what book. Thanks for the feedback