St Louis Question

[Moscone65]

The Hill in St Louis is still a very large, and very nice Italian American neighborhood. It's mostly touristy but not as much as little Italy in new York, and if anything it's larger. Does anyone live in st Louis that knows if anything is going on, particularly in the hill. I'm not saying some huge active family, but I would be very surprised if there ain't atleast a handful of old timers still around, and perhaps some of their descendants, maybe doing some gambling and loansharking. On GBB some people said that there are a few guys around, but I'm curious what you guys on here know. Please no condescending or douchebag answers fellas.

[DPG]

I just moved back home from St Louis, only thing I ever noticed on the Hill was good food.

[Wiseguy]

The Hill in St Louis is still a very large, and very nice Italian American neighborhood. It's mostly touristy but not as much as little Italy in new York, and if anything it's larger. Does anyone live in st Louis that knows if anything is going on, particularly in the hill. I'm not saying some huge active family, but I would be very surprised if there ain't atleast a handful of old timers still around, and perhaps some of their descendants, maybe doing some gambling and loansharking. On GBB some people said that there are a few guys around, but I'm curious what you guys on here know. Please no condescending or douchebag answers fellas.

According to the FBI, the family had 35 members in 1960's, 17 members in 1980, and less than 10 by the late 1980's.

Maybe a decade ago or so, an old poster on the RD forum named Little Al (some will recall he knew a lot about the Midwest families) said there might have been a couple members left at most, including Fernando "Nondo" Bartolotta and Frank Palazollo, but he wasn't sure if those guys were made. Fast-forward to 2019 and, well, you get the idea.

The last case was when Mike Trupiano was charged in the early 1990s with running an illegal card game on union time. Bartolotta was put on the Missouri Gaming Commission "Involuntary Exclusion List" in 2009. Only news over the past decade that I'm aware of is Trupiano's kids running the Amnesia club (formerly Lure) and being investigated for forging some tax documents.

[NothingNew44]

The Family is much like many of the other small Families outside of NE USA in the sense that there was never a big incentive or desire to grow in size and influence beyond what they were in 1960. In the lack of recruitment, drive to become legitimate, and fear of law enforcement the Family died out.

[JCB1977]

St Louis was very important in the early days. Many well known mafiosi originally came from there. Very interesting family to say the least

[DPG]

The Hill in St Louis is still a very large, and very nice Italian American neighborhood. It's mostly touristy but not as much as little Italy in new York, and if anything it's larger. Does anyone live in st Louis that knows if anything is going on, particularly in the hill. I'm not saying some huge active family, but I would be very surprised if there ain't atleast a handful of old timers still around, and perhaps some of their descendants, maybe doing some gambling and loansharking. On GBB some people said that there are a few guys around, but I'm curious what you guys on here know. Please no condescending or douchebag answers fellas.

According to the FBI, the family had 35 members in 1960's, 17 members in 1980, and less than 10 by the late 1980's.

Maybe a decade ago or so, an old poster on the RD forum named Little Al (some will recall he knew a lot about the Midwest families) said there might have been a couple members left at most, including Fernando "Nondo" Bartolotta and Frank Palazollo, but he wasn't sure if those guys were made. Fast-forward to 2019 and, well, you get the idea.

The last case was when Mike Trupiano was charged in the early 1990s with running an illegal card game on union time. Bartolotta was put on the Missouri Gaming Commission "Involuntary Exclusion List" in 2009. Only news over the past decade that I'm aware of is Trupiano's kids running the Amnesia club (formerly Lure) and being investigated for forging some tax documents.

If these are the same guys (I know they are sons of a one time boss) ,they now own a club right beside Soulard market right outside of downtown, bout a mile from the stadium. It's a happening spot that's always crowded by 5pm.

[B.]

Here is a big thread on St. Louis history if you're interested:
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=4109

As mentioned there, in conversation with informant Frank Bompensiero, boss Giardano implied there were only 22 members left in 1968, saying the average member age was early 60s. According to sources, they refused to induct non-Sicilians and even then had largely closed themselves off from new members for years. Despite whatever later efforts may have been made to keep the family alive after this, it wasn't much.

I'd go with Wiseguy on this one, 100%.