THE BLACK HAND FORUM

I was discussing the Lucchese’s taking Vic down unanimously as opposed to the 50/50 split the Columbo’s had. Because youre viewing this as a democratic corporation where the boss has to stand in front of shareholders every year for a performance review. Bosses appoint Capo's who are loyal to them. ...

I recently asked John Penissi about Vic Amuso’s leadership on a blog he was doing a Q and A on, inquiring why the Lucchese Family didn’t pressure Amuso to step down as official boss considering his track record. (Inability to control Casso, unnecessary murders, multiple informants connected to him ...

For better or worse, it seems Amuso has always carried respect in the family. And in all the cases above (Amuso, Persico, Gotti), there were still plenty of people on the street that saw the imprisoned boss retaining power as benefiting them. Who were those people that would benefit? I understand h...

The boss is the boss is the boss sounds great when you’re quoting Neil Dellacroce but if the boss isn’t doing his job why is he there aside from an outdated rule? It’s ancient logic and overall hurts operations and while I hear what your saying regarding the boss not being removed forcibly unless u...

i kinda dont think the decision was in peter gottis hands to decide who would be acting boss. i bet he didnt even have the say to make jackie nose the acting boss around 2007. i bet the capos in the family kinda voted on him or something like that. damico made cefulo his acting underboss and it see...

Frank wrote:Cant a Boss be voted out by captains

No I don’t think so but someone else may know of an instance where that’s happened?


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wanted to add that for Amuso, im going to guess that guys on the street probably dont think he was a ‘bad boss’ like we do watching from the outside, and he was probably liked and respected by the rank and file a lot more than we thought. theres probably a lot of guys who legitimately think hes not...

the lightning rod thing is i think overblown. for starters hes already locked up. and even though he has respect, influence, and is getting some money behind bars, everybody including the feds know he’s severely limited compared to guys on the streets when it comes to making things happen. if they ...

What we're missing here is also the point that the boss is the boss is the boss. You dont 'just' vote a new boss in when one goes away. The boss is the boss. We have seen this with Amuso, Mancuso, Peter Gotti. All current bosses (allow me a little leeway on PG) who EVERYONE swore werent the real 'p...

i kinda dont think the decision was in peter gottis hands to decide who would be acting boss. i bet he didnt even have the say to make jackie nose the acting boss around 2007. i bet the capos in the family kinda voted on him or something like that. damico made cefulo his acting underboss and it see...

For better or worse, it seems Amuso has always carried respect in the family. And in all the cases above (Amuso, Persico, Gotti), there were still plenty of people on the street that saw the imprisoned boss retaining power as benefiting them. Who were those people that would benefit? I understand h...

For better or worse, it seems Amuso has always carried respect in the family. And in all the cases above (Amuso, Persico, Gotti), there were still plenty of people on the street that saw the imprisoned boss retaining power as benefiting them. Who were those people that would benefit? I understand h...

Here's another way to look at it regarding Gotti, how would it benefit the Gambinos by taking Gotti down? If everybody knew Peter Gotti was boss in name only and the guys running the family are on the street it doesnt make a difference if Cefalu was the official boss or acting. Gotti was technicall...

For better or worse, it seems Amuso has always carried respect in the family. And in all the cases above (Amuso, Persico, Gotti), there were still plenty of people on the street that saw the imprisoned boss retaining power as benefiting them. Who were those people that would benefit? I understand h...

It is odd that Sammy is somehow trying to disassociate himself with having flipped, but he’s always been self serving. Seems to be on an image rehabilitation tour. I agree he’s rebranding himself. His claim Gotti told him he’d be taking the heat as their defense is laughable and most of his quotes ...