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[quote=B. post_id=279546 time=1718929816 user_id=127]
I ask because some of these guys are listed as being from Monreale but deeper investigation shows they were from Pioppo, which is a frazione of Monreale thus they are technically recorded as being from Monreale. LoPiccolo and the Trifiros were from "Monreale" but it was actually Pioppo and they ended up in the Bonanno network which makes sense as Pioppo is closer to Partinico. Guys from the actual town of Monreale might show different patterns.
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I remember this coming up in the Bonanno-Newark thread.

Dr. Noto’s father was from Via Santa Maria Nuova, Monreale

I ask because some of these guys are listed as being from Monreale but deeper investigation shows they were from Pioppo, which is a frazione of Monreale thus they are technically recorded as being from Monreale. LoPiccolo and the Trifiros were from "Monreale" but it was actually Pioppo and they ended up in the Bonanno network which makes sense as Pioppo is closer to Partinico. Guys from the actual town of Monreale might show different patterns.

[quote=B. post_id=279458 time=1718825070 user_id=127]
Nice work.

Do you know if Noto was from Monreale proper? Some of the Monrealese in the US mafia were actually from Pioppo, a small frazione halfway between Monreale and Partinico though those guys tended to be in the Bonanno network. I've noticed a lot of connections/relations between many towns in the Palermo province interior in general, even stretching quite a ways throughout the region.
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Dr. Noto was born in Monreale & his fathers family was from there too

Yep, he and Grammauta were cousins.

Stephen Grammauta's father Domenico was born in Misilmeri. His mother was from Santo Stefano di Camastra in Messina.


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I also think Joe Armone's mother was a Grammauta but can't confirm it.

Nice work.

Do you know if Noto was from Monreale proper? Some of the Monrealese in the US mafia were actually from Pioppo, a small frazione halfway between Monreale and Partinico though those guys tended to be in the Bonanno network. I've noticed a lot of connections/relations between many towns in the Palermo province interior in general, even stretching quite a ways throughout the region.

Figured out how Anthony Scoma & Dr. Philip Noto were related: they were 2nd cousins.

Scoma’s mother Carmela Cannariato (1883-1979) was a first cousin to Noto’s mother Carmela Cannariato (1882-1974). Their maternal grandfathers, Laurentio & Bartolomeo Cannariato, were brothers.

The Cannariato family was from Prizzi, so they could have been related to Rockford, IL figure Salvatore “Sam” Cannariato whose family was also from there.

Joe Zoppo lived at the same address as Sam Accardi.

In the 1950 census, Joe Zoppo was living at [b]68 Peck Ave, Newark, NJ[/b] with his parents and siblings. His family had been at this address as early as 1942. His father Salvatore Zoppo registered for the WW2 draft at that address.

(https://www.ancestry.ca/discoveryui-content/view/8792885:1002)

Sam Accardi lived at [b]68 Peck Ave, Newark, NJ[/b] in the 1940 census but had moved to 188 Franklin St, Bloomfield, NJ by his naturalization in 1945.

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I don’t know if their times at that house ever overlapped or if Accardi sold his house to the Zoppo family.

I have to ask if this project is still moving forward. It would be a shame to let this project die. So much effort will go to waste if this one is dropped.

[quote="Angelo Santino" post_id=219368 time=1644174945 user_id=69]
I'm going to include FBI #'s. Where can I acquire them aside from the fbn book? HK, do you have them? If not, no worries. I'll add what I can.
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Not sure if you are still doing FBI #s but here are some I have collected on Gams in 1963:

Andrew Alberti - 345652B
Edward 'Chris' Amplo - 1492009
Anthony Anastasio - 4743827 [The older one, died 3.1963]
Joseph 'Piney' Armone - 798682
Salvatore Aurello - 831983
Frank 'Frankie Martin' Barranca - 827544A
Peter 'Petey The Bull' Baratta - 2012035
Sebastian Bellanca - 797788
Joseph 'Joe Bandi' Biondo - 62666
Joseph Bisogno - 266750A
Salvatore 'Fat Sal' Bonfrisco - 251233
Frank 'Frankie Brown' Bongiorno - 225874
Dominick Castore - 520952
Antonino Carminati - 1947698
Paul Castellano - 824437
Salvatore Chiri - 774935C
Joseph 'Gus' Colozzo - 1550358
Vincent 'Jimmy The Blond' Corrao - 1378139
Alexander D'Alessio - 3274739
John D'Alessio - 1789280
Michael D'Alessio - 1586036
Louis DeFilippo - 3558839
Aniello Dellacroce - 327320
Nicholas DiBene - 438428
Calogero DiCarlo - 3492388
Charles Dongarra - 321506
Alfred Eppolito - 1824986
James 'Jimmy Brown' Failla - I don't think he had a FBI# as of 1963. His NJ North Bergen PD # was 01242
Carlo Gambino - 334450
Paolo Gambino - 1667871 (He is incorrectly listed as a Capodecina in the chart. It seems that whoever had him as one just guessed he was. He was a member of the Castellano crew at this time. He was given a portion of the Castellano crew in about 1967 which included John Riccobono, Peter Castellana, Salvatore D'Acquisto, and Salvatore Tocco)
Frank Gagliardi - 901051
Michael 'Blackie' Galgano - 754359
Joseph Gennaro - 1252430
Joseph 'Joe Brown' Giordano - 327979
Anthony Granza - 2042937
Leonardo Grillo - 534981
Frank Guglielmini - 4338306
Joseph Guglielmini - 265700D
Joseph 'Joe Scooch' Indelicato - 561964
Arthur Leo - 4520053
Carmine Lombardozzi - 290869
John Lombardozzi - 4156095
Paul Lombardozzi - He didn't have an FBI # as of 1963
Francesco Luciano - 347100
Aniello 'Wahoo' Mancuso - 870432D
Gennaro Mancuso - 263535D
Joseph 'Jo Jo' Manfredi - 4354868 [Imprisoned]
Accursio 'Swifty' Marinelli - 387064
James 'Jimmy Ward' Massi - 495223
Frank 'Frankie Moose' Moccardi - 1098685
Onofrio Modica - I'm pretty sure he didn't have a criminal record / FBI #
Philip Modica - He didn't have a criminal record / FBI #
Sabato 'Sammy Mitz' Muro - 765170
Rocco Mazzie - 836172 [Mazzie is incorrectly listed as a soldier in the chart. Mazzie was a Capodecina at the time. He was demoted not long after and his crew placed with Joseph Zingaro]
Vincent 'Jimmy' Palmisano - 601072
Frank Pasqua - 241577B
Santo 'Lloyd' Patti - 832463-C
Domenico 'Joe Pitts' Petito - 374900
Peter 'Petey 17' Piacenti - 561015A
Lawrence Pistone - 417216C
Joseph Riccobono - 321523
John Rizzo - He didn't have a criminal record / FBI #
Arnold 'Allie Boy' Romano - 698634
Hugo 'Big Hugo' Rossi - 346645B
Anthony Ruggiano - 4457126
Alfredo 'Freddie The Sidge' Santantonio - 362928A
Paul 'Whitey' SanFilippo - He didn't have an arrest record / FBI #
Michael Scandifia - 476106B
Michael 'Micky The Geep' Sedotto - 3242790
Peter Tortorella - 1037137
Mario 'Red' Traina - I'm pretty sure he didn't have an arrest record / FBI #
Anthony Vanella - 76977C
Ettore Zappi - 386326

John Bernardo also should not be listed as a confirmed member on the chart. Joe Zingaro took over Jimmy Squillante's crew in 1960.

I am convinced William Bentvena was not made. But since JD is not here, we will not know the reason behind why he put him, and others never identified or once identified by FBI but later excluded from membership, on his list.

I believe he is saying these are confirmed members and he didn't include the ones he considered possible members. Knowing him and his blog, that is most likely.

[quote=B. post_id=265609 time=1691443592 user_id=127]
On the deceased list where he included Bentvena he said at the bottom he didn't include possible members so he must have found a solid source on it.
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"Total: 114
Murders: 11 [2 Unsanctioned]

The above figure is only a baseline estimate. [b]There are several possible members who died in this time frame as well,[/b] along with an indeterminate number of complete unknowns."

- Do you mean this? I´m reading this to mean that there are additional possible members who died during that time frame that he did not list. If I am not wrong, it could be that some names on his list are of those that can be cathegorized as possible members or suspected members.

On the deceased list where he included Bentvena he said at the bottom he didn't include possible members so he must have found a solid source on it.

[quote=B. post_id=265468 time=1691206264 user_id=127]
JD has him listed as a soldier on his list of deceased Gambino members and he is extremely careful about those things, listing people as "suspected" or "possible" unless it comes from a reliable source. He must have found something that gave him confidence in Bentvena being a member.
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I think actually, on his latest lists, JD included the suspected members or possible members but did not mark them as such. That includes a number of names. Angelo, if we come across proof that these guys were indeed made you should include them of course. But until then, it would be incorrect to put them on your chart.