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Re: Big Mike Desantis-Lucchese Boss

by JCB1977 » Sat May 09, 2020 7:21 am

Fughedaboutit wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 5:11 pm
JCB1977 wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 1:26 pm
Pete wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 12:21 pm
chubby wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 9:21 am Was he the one who showed up To the hotel meeting with d’arco and everyone and d’arco claimed desantis was wearing a bulletproof vest under a sweatshirt and swore he was there to kill him??? And what cause al to runnto the feds??
Exactly supposedly d’arco saw a gun in his waist band. But to this day I think Casso claims d’arco was never gonna be hit and that he was just paranoid. Who knows
And Casso is one of the least credible sources in the history of the mafia
Is he? The guy that gave up the mafia cops (convicted for their crimes) and Sammy Gravano? lol
He couldn't testify, he was deemed not credible for lying to the FBI in debriefings. D'Arco and Burt Kaplan were the key witnesses who testified against the cops, although D'Arco corroborated some of what Casso said. The Feds did not find him credible regarding Sammy. Sammy was later indicted and pled guilty to ecstasy trafficking. Casso didn't testify. Many informants feed shit to the Feds and give them accurate info on guys they have a personal vendetta against.

Re: Big Mike Desantis-Lucchese Boss

by newera_212 » Fri May 08, 2020 6:14 pm

Pete wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 12:21 pm
chubby wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 9:21 am Was he the one who showed up To the hotel meeting with d’arco and everyone and d’arco claimed desantis was wearing a bulletproof vest under a sweatshirt and swore he was there to kill him??? And what cause al to runnto the feds??
Exactly supposedly d’arco saw a gun in his waist band. But to this day I think Casso claims d’arco was never gonna be hit and that he was just paranoid. Who knows
cant imagine it was a hit, made no sense in the hotel, but lets say it was and D’Arco was right...by that point casso could have been out of the loop and really had no idea they were going to hit him. could have been an attempt by Lastorino to take over. next time hes on the phone with casso it could be “we went to the hotel to meet Al, and he never showed” - from the Lino and Testa hit, and the alleged plans to kill Crea, Junior Gotti, and a couple other people, you cant put it past Lastorino

basically im saying Casso probably isnt lying. he himself, literally, did not have plans to kill Al. but the guys on the street could have (although again, in that hotel, i doubt it. it makes no sense...but these guys have done crazier shit so who knows)

Re: Big Mike Desantis-Lucchese Boss

by Pete » Fri May 08, 2020 5:14 pm

Fughedaboutit wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 5:11 pm
JCB1977 wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 1:26 pm
Pete wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 12:21 pm
chubby wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 9:21 am Was he the one who showed up To the hotel meeting with d’arco and everyone and d’arco claimed desantis was wearing a bulletproof vest under a sweatshirt and swore he was there to kill him??? And what cause al to runnto the feds??
Exactly supposedly d’arco saw a gun in his waist band. But to this day I think Casso claims d’arco was never gonna be hit and that he was just paranoid. Who knows
And Casso is one of the least credible sources in the history of the mafia
Is he? The guy that gave up the mafia cops (convicted for their crimes) and Sammy Gravano? lol
Umm did you read his book? It’s all bullshit. Come on man do you do any research at all?

Re: Big Mike Desantis-Lucchese Boss

by Fughedaboutit » Fri May 08, 2020 5:11 pm

JCB1977 wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 1:26 pm
Pete wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 12:21 pm
chubby wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 9:21 am Was he the one who showed up To the hotel meeting with d’arco and everyone and d’arco claimed desantis was wearing a bulletproof vest under a sweatshirt and swore he was there to kill him??? And what cause al to runnto the feds??
Exactly supposedly d’arco saw a gun in his waist band. But to this day I think Casso claims d’arco was never gonna be hit and that he was just paranoid. Who knows
And Casso is one of the least credible sources in the history of the mafia
Is he? The guy that gave up the mafia cops (convicted for their crimes) and Sammy Gravano? lol

Re: Big Mike Desantis-Lucchese Boss

by SonnyBlackstein » Fri May 08, 2020 4:36 pm

chubby wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 4:30 pm
Pete wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 12:21 pm
chubby wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 9:21 am Honestly, The Whole set up hit in a fancy hotel room seems pretty far fetched to me... first off all the highest ranking members of the family were present , I double they would want to be present for a murder. 2nd... it’s a hotel.. you’re telling me neighbors in rooms next door or across the hall wouldn’t hear the gun shots??? Even if it was a suppressed pistol, they’re still louder than peiple think.. and lastly .. what were they going to do with his body ?? Walk him out propped up like weekend and Bernie’s ? Or just leave him laying dead in the hotel m... which would provably trace right back to one of the guys who rented the room... I really don’t think they were going to hit darco that day.... but I fully understand his massive paranoia and I’m shocked he even entered the room in the first place!!!
Good post. Never gave it that much thought. Makes sense in that light that it’s unlikely

Re: Big Mike Desantis-Lucchese Boss

by chubby » Fri May 08, 2020 4:30 pm

Pete wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 12:21 pm
chubby wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 9:21 am Was he the one who showed up To the hotel meeting with d’arco and everyone and d’arco claimed desantis was wearing a bulletproof vest under a sweatshirt and swore he was there to kill him??? And what cause al to runnto the feds??
Exactly supposedly d’arco saw a gun in his waist band. But to this day I think Casso claims d’arco was never gonna be hit and that he was just paranoid. Who knows
Honestly, The Whole set up hit in a fancy hotel room seems pretty far fetched to me... first off all the highest ranking members of the family were present , I double they would want to be present for a murder. 2nd... it’s a hotel.. you’re telling me neighbors in rooms next door or across the hall wouldn’t hear the gun shots??? Even if it was a suppressed pistol, they’re still louder than peiple think.. and lastly .. what were they going to do with his body ?? Walk him out propped up like weekend and Bernie’s ? Or just leave him laying dead in the hotel m... which would provably trace right back to one of the guys who rented the room... I really don’t think they were going to hit darco that day.... but I fully understand his massive paranoia and I’m shocked he even entered the room in the first place!!!

Re: Big Mike Desantis-Lucchese Boss

by Ivan » Fri May 08, 2020 3:59 pm

dack2001 wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 12:49 pm I don't know if anyone can blame D'Arco for being paranoid, Vic and Gas were killing everybody like psychos.
"Whack Jersey. They're creeps."

Re: Big Mike Desantis-Lucchese Boss

by johnny_scootch » Fri May 08, 2020 3:45 pm

He used to own an auto body shop on McDonald Ave in Brooklyn

Re: Big Mike Desantis-Lucchese Boss

by chin_gigante » Fri May 08, 2020 3:40 pm

DeSantis dug the grave in the murder of John Morrissey and was identified as a conspirator in the murder of James Bishop

Re: Big Mike Desantis-Lucchese Boss

by Pete » Fri May 08, 2020 2:43 pm

JCB1977 wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 1:26 pm
Pete wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 12:21 pm
chubby wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 9:21 am Was he the one who showed up To the hotel meeting with d’arco and everyone and d’arco claimed desantis was wearing a bulletproof vest under a sweatshirt and swore he was there to kill him??? And what cause al to runnto the feds??
Exactly supposedly d’arco saw a gun in his waist band. But to this day I think Casso claims d’arco was never gonna be hit and that he was just paranoid. Who knows
And Casso is one of the least credible sources in the history of the mafia
I agree. I never believed what he said that he was offered boss when he was just a soldier and turned it down and said give it to Vic

Re: Big Mike Desantis-Lucchese Boss

by JCB1977 » Fri May 08, 2020 1:26 pm

Pete wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 12:21 pm
chubby wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 9:21 am Was he the one who showed up To the hotel meeting with d’arco and everyone and d’arco claimed desantis was wearing a bulletproof vest under a sweatshirt and swore he was there to kill him??? And what cause al to runnto the feds??
Exactly supposedly d’arco saw a gun in his waist band. But to this day I think Casso claims d’arco was never gonna be hit and that he was just paranoid. Who knows
And Casso is one of the least credible sources in the history of the mafia

Re: Big Mike Desantis-Lucchese Boss

by dack2001 » Fri May 08, 2020 12:49 pm

I don't know if anyone can blame D'Arco for being paranoid, Vic and Gas were killing everybody like psychos.

Re: Big Mike Desantis-Lucchese Boss

by Pete » Fri May 08, 2020 12:21 pm

chubby wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 9:21 am Was he the one who showed up To the hotel meeting with d’arco and everyone and d’arco claimed desantis was wearing a bulletproof vest under a sweatshirt and swore he was there to kill him??? And what cause al to runnto the feds??
Exactly supposedly d’arco saw a gun in his waist band. But to this day I think Casso claims d’arco was never gonna be hit and that he was just paranoid. Who knows

Re: Big Mike Desantis-Lucchese Boss

by JCB1977 » Fri May 08, 2020 12:02 pm

Some info on his encounter with D'Arco at the hotel:

https://books.google.com/books?id=6uQCA ... ly&f=false

Re: Big Mike Desantis-Lucchese Boss

by JCB1977 » Fri May 08, 2020 11:58 am


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