THE BLACK HAND FORUM

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:00 am If i was to guess, I’d say Fresca had stopped paying tribute to the Bonannos and that’s what sealed his fate. I read somewhere that he had been struggling financially so that could have something to do with his murder.

Jbravo wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:05 pm Frank Fresca was also bangin some wiseguys girlfriend from what i remember where he caught a beatdown for it at his restaurant. Maybe the cause.. because at that time is when the whole crew that provided protection to him was crumbling due to pressure from the Mcelvey murder.

Mason_dixon wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:30 pm

TommyNoto wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:54 pm Yeah it’s just the made men that aren’t getting clipped anymore

Seems in regards to associates at least 1 or 2 murders a year are mob related.

If it’s wasnt for recent NJ legalizing gambling then this period could of been a modern day goldi locks period. I think even Micky Scars said this .

No random murders , huge expanding gambling networks that gave them access to large amounts of cash for other investments, Reduction in LE budgets, less time in jail
And sweat heart pleas due to no murders indictments, influence in unions / constructions seems to be on upswings.

Sure less $ but not for all ( especially top gambling crews) but much lower chance of being killed or serving a sentence above 5-7 years.

If in 10 years legal sports gambling takes majority of the market share then that will have a bigger impact on their decline then 10 x current LE budget.

In NJ/ NJ the Mob was never going to go away as had billion dollar gambling networks. Now I’m not so sure, I could see the Pernas being very nervous in jail on what they come home too. Some of these old time west side NJ guys could of timed their retirement perfect.

Agree with most of what your saying but the guys who bet with bookies aren’t the same clientele going to be attracted t legal sports betting. Can’t beat betting with credit till you get a few teeth knocked out...

TommyNoto wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:54 pm Yeah it’s just the made men that aren’t getting clipped anymore

Seems in regards to associates at least 1 or 2 murders a year are mob related.

If it’s wasnt for recent NJ legalizing gambling then this period could of been a modern day goldi locks period. I think even Micky Scars said this .

No random murders , huge expanding gambling networks that gave them access to large amounts of cash for other investments, Reduction in LE budgets, less time in jail
And sweat heart pleas due to no murders indictments, influence in unions / constructions seems to be on upswings.

Sure less $ but not for all ( especially top gambling crews) but much lower chance of being killed or serving a sentence above 5-7 years.

If in 10 years legal sports gambling takes majority of the market share then that will have a bigger impact on their decline then 10 x current LE budget.

In NJ/ NJ the Mob was never going to go away as had billion dollar gambling networks. Now I’m not so sure, I could see the Pernas being very nervous in jail on what they come home too. Some of these old time west side NJ guys could of timed their retirement perfect.

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:01 am https://nypost.com/2008/08/02/mob-going ... ay-eatery/

Anyone believe this was mob related?