THE BLACK HAND FORUM

cavita wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:46 pm

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:30 pm

cavita wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:13 pm

B. wrote: ↑Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:18 am I know in the 1960s he was cheating with his wife's cousin. Not sure if she was an Alioto or a maternal cousin or if the affair continued into the 1970s given the problems it caused.

He may have contunued it,,,an FBI file I have mentioning him, Charles VInce and Joe Ferriola being in the same dormitory in federal prison in the early 1970s mentioned him having a mistress. I'm continually frustrated as there's no decent book written about Milwaukee given they were around since the early days and were even involved in the Vegas skim.

Best one I’ve read is by Gavin Schmidt.

Do you mean the mostly picture book that's 120 odd pages long? Yes, that is good but I'm looking for a traditional book that does have pictures but is more descriptive.

JerryB wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:52 pm

UTC wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:32 pm Wow, had no idea. They survived their own war in the street but not that. What an irony. Thanks. The other day I was trying to think of the suburban restaurant she owned about 25-30 years ago. It was pretty good.

Sally owned a steak house in the Knickerbocker Hotel way back. A few years before she died, she was running the Savoy restaurant in the Shorecrest; basically working for Joey Bal and his brother, John. We loved that place. Vince Gallo (I thinkmaybe the last known indicted Milwaukee family member?) - became the matre d' after Sally had a falling out with Joe. [I'm sure it was only a coincidence that she died during their "disagreement," though. There were locals in the street that swore Joe had her and her daughter ran off the road].

tonyei31 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:38 pmThanks Jerry. For some reason I thought it was out of the families hands. Solid BBQ btw. Nothing on old school Speed Queen though.

UTC wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:32 pm Wow, had no idea. They survived their own war in the street but not that. What an irony. Thanks. The other day I was trying to think of the suburban restaurant she owned about 25-30 years ago. It was pretty good.

JerryB wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:22 pm

tonyei31 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:50 pm...(snip)...While both "have been sold" by the original owners I am pretty sure that the old owners of Pitch's, as well as the old owner of Jo Jo's Martini Lounge had ties (100% positive on Pitch's) were made men.

Pitch's was not sold. It has been and still is owned by the Picciurro family which has had it for decades and is still run by Peter Picciurro and his son Jimmy. Peter is a long-time made member of what was the MKE family. When it was still verifiably active, Peter was Consigliere.

UTC wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:17 pm I meant is she still around.

tonyei31 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:50 pm...(snip)...While both "have been sold" by the original owners I am pretty sure that the old owners of Pitch's, as well as the old owner of Jo Jo's Martini Lounge had ties (100% positive on Pitch's) were made men.

tonyei31 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:50 pm Not that this relates to your original question but I have always been fascinated with the Milwaukee family.

Few of the interesting things still see today: Pitch's BBQ still has a spot next to Jo Jo's Martini Lounge at Summerfest (huge music festival). While both "have been sold" by the original owners I am pretty sure that the old owners of Pitch's, as well as the old owner of Jo Jo's Martini Lounge had ties (100% positive on Pitch's) were made men. Always wonder if they had some ties into Summerfest during years past (through financial means). Obviously makes no difference in 2019 but it probably did 30-40 years ago.

Another is the infamous light display at Libby's Lounge (now closed but the light display remains). https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2015/01/05/h ... ay-lights/. Dennis Librizzi I believe is a made but was always a prominent figure in the Milwaukee community.

On a complete different aside: I had a former co-worker that was doing house work in the late 70's for Augie Palmisano in the days prior to his car bomb death.

cavita wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:46 pm

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:30 pm

cavita wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:13 pm

B. wrote: ↑Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:18 am I know in the 1960s he was cheating with his wife's cousin. Not sure if she was an Alioto or a maternal cousin or if the affair continued into the 1970s given the problems it caused.

He may have contunued it,,,an FBI file I have mentioning him, Charles VInce and Joe Ferriola being in the same dormitory in federal prison in the early 1970s mentioned him having a mistress. I'm continually frustrated as there's no decent book written about Milwaukee given they were around since the early days and were even involved in the Vegas skim.

Best one I’ve read is by Gavin Schmidt.

Do you mean the mostly picture book that's 120 odd pages long? Yes, that is good but I'm looking for a traditional book that does have pictures but is more descriptive.

B. wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:37 pm Cavita is familiar with this topic, but here is one from a while back with a lot of information on Milwaukee for those interested:

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=2168

tonyei31 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:50 pm Not that this relates to your original question but I have always been fascinated with the Milwaukee family.

Few of the interesting things still see today: Pitch's BBQ still has a spot next to Jo Jo's Martini Lounge at Summerfest (huge music festival). While both "have been sold" by the original owners I am pretty sure that the old owners of Pitch's, as well as the old owner of Jo Jo's Martini Lounge had ties (100% positive on Pitch's) were made men. Always wonder if they had some ties into Summerfest during years past (through financial means). Obviously makes no difference in 2019 but it probably did 30-40 years ago.

Another is the infamous light display at Libby's Lounge (now closed but the light display remains). https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2015/01/05/h ... ay-lights/. Dennis Librizzi I believe is a made but was always a prominent figure in the Milwaukee community.

On a complete different aside: I had a former co-worker that was doing house work in the late 70's for Augie Palmisano in the days prior to his car bomb death.