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I've asked before but remember if I got a response but did ever come out who the two gunmen were in the attempt on Mike Ciancaglini in 1992? Mike suspected one was his brother Joey But who knows. With so many Stanfa guys flipping you figured it would have come out already.


Pogo

The suspects in the Ciancaglini Jr. hit attempt were Mazzone, Merlino, Angelina, Lancelotti, and Borgesi. Tommy Scafidi testified that he was part of the hit team as well. He claimed that Merlino drove a separate car and waited outside as a lookout and that Mazzone and Lancelotti did the actual shooting, with Scafidi and Borgesi as backup. I assume Angelina was the driver for the hit team.

About a decade ago, Anastasia claimed an informant made a recording of someone admitting to being the driver in the Long John Martorano hit. The recording was likely made by associate Steve Carnivale who was wearing a wire during the period after the murder and was close to Lucibello associate Tony Gagliardi, who Chucky mentioned. Carnivale and Gagliardi were dealing cocaine and Carnivale flipped and recorded Gagliardi many times, so that's the most likely scenario. Gagliardi was already serving a long prison sentence by the time Anastasia mentioned it and died a few years later.

Gongs has been out of prison for a bit by that point, he had probably gotten back into his old routine and let his guard down. I just don't see it with Filipelli, he was never known as a heavy guy and didn't get his hands dirty when Stanfa and Merlino were going at it.

NJShore4Life wrote: ↑Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:07 pm I believe all the Philly guys think that Filipelli is a complete muscle bound idiot. Ligambi I feel only let him back into the fold to kick up from his sportsbook and loanshark books to Staino.

Was it Ligambi who let him back into the fold? I thought Filipelli was brought back under Natale-Merlino when he got out in 1998?

Chucky wrote: ↑Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:11 pm I highly doubt Filipelli was part of the crew that took out Gongs.

You wouldn't think so on the face of it but it would make sense since he was close to Gongs back in the Stanfa days and could gain his trust. It would seem strange that Casasanto would willingly let Nicodemo, Virgilio, Lancelotti or a group of known hitters into his house at night.


Pogo

Placing Big Vince with Staino allowed them to keep am eye on him and allowed him to earn through collections.

I believe all the Philly guys think that Filipelli is a complete muscle bound idiot. Ligambi I feel only let him back into the fold to kick up from his sportsbook and loanshark books to Staino. “Make money, don’t make headlines”

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:40 am I don't recall. Could very well be. Wasn't he also suspected in the Long john hit as well?


Pogo

Yeah there's been some smoke about him being one of the guy, Tony Gagliardi too.

I highly doubt Filipelli was part of the crew that took out Gongs.

I don't recall. Could very well be. Wasn't he also suspected in the Long john hit as well?


Pogo

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:59 am Correct on both counts. Lancelotti was one of the gunmen in the Ciancaglini hit. The other two were Tommy Scafidi and Steve Mazzone (or was it Marty Angelina?). For the Johnny Gongs hit the camera cought 3 guys entering the house. Lancelotti, Anthony Nicodemo, Mikey Virgilio and Vince Filipelli have all been suspected in taking part in it with Nicodemo being a prime suspect.


Pogo

Pogo hasn’t Damion Canalichio been suspected of that hit as well?

Correct on both counts. Lancelotti was one of the gunmen in the Ciancaglini hit. The other two were Tommy Scafidi and Steve Mazzone (or was it Marty Angelina?). For the Johnny Gongs hit the camera cought 3 guys entering the house. Lancelotti, Anthony Nicodemo, Mikey Virgilio and Vince Filipelli have all been suspected in taking part in it with Nicodemo being a prime suspect.


Pogo

MichaelGiovanni wrote: ↑Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:44 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:10 am He was one of the shooters in the attempted murder of UnderBoss Joey Ciancaglini Jr in 1993. He is also a suspect in the Johnny Gongs Cassasanto hit in 2003.


Pogo

Pogo any idea who the other shooter was in the Joey c attempt? Or was he the only one? Just to make sure this was the one caught on surveillance that happened in a diner correct?

The Joey Chang attempted hit was the one captured on tape at the diner. I believe Johnny Gongs' killers were captured on tape entering his house by neighbours' cctv but the image quality was too low to identify anyone. Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not sure on that last bit.

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:10 am He was one of the shooters in the attempted murder of UnderBoss Joey Ciancaglini Jr in 1993. He is also a suspect in the Johnny Gongs Cassasanto hit in 2003.


Pogo

Pogo any idea who the other shooter was in the Joey c attempt? Or was he the only one? Just to make sure this was the one caught on surveillance that happened in a diner correct?

He was one of the shooters in the attempted murder of UnderBoss Joey Ciancaglini Jr in 1993. He is also a suspect in the Johnny Gongs Cassasanto hit in 2003.


Pogo

chin_gigante wrote: ↑Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:50 pm Got made in '94 by Merlino along with Steve Mazzone, George Borgesi, Marty Angelina and Vincent Iannece. Served as a capo under acting boss Joe Ligambi. Took a back seat during the first part of the 2010s for health reasons. Allegedly introduced by Joey Merlino as the boss of Philadelphia at a Christmas party in New York in 2015. Earlier that year I think Scott Burnstein reported him as acting as a street boss, passing orders between Mazzone and the capos. If he is indeed Merlino's acting boss it seems he got promoted to the position in 2015 after recovering from his health problems.

Vince Iannece...never hear much about that guy.