by Adam » Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:06 am
Ivan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:11 am
Ed wrote: ↑Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:26 am
As Ivan pointed out, Rosenthal had a previous history of violent behaviour and you don't rise to the top without being a cagey operator.
Well, actually, you're the one who pointed it out, I just pointed out that you pointed it out.
There's a passage in Casino (the book) where an agent kind of scoffs at the idea of Lefty being nonviolent, saying that it's impossible to be around the kind of guys he hung out with as much as he did without getting some blood on you yourself.
B. wrote: ↑Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:35 am
Great timing. I re-watched Casino recently from start to finish for the first time in over a decade and had a newfound love for it (I used to think it was one of the more boring of the classic mob movies). Been wanting to dig more into the grit behind the scenes, so thanks for this.
B. if you're interested I know more about that movie than anyone in their right mind should, so feel free to inquire about it. It's 90% real but there are a lot of composite characters (Remo is Aiuppa
and Balistrieri, for example) and combination scenes (e.g., the scene toward the end where the guy is whacked in Costa Rica is a combination of Jerry Lisner getting killed by Frank Culotta, and an FBI theory about Jay Vandermark getting killed in Latin America that turned out to be false. BTW the hitman in the scene is played by... wait for it... Frank Culotta. Yes, he got paid to re-enact one of his own murders. Nice work if you can get it!)
You know that the politician played by Dick Smothers was Harry Reid in real life, right?
Also, the Japanese dude whose plane they sabotaged was a gentleman by the name of Akio Kashiwagi in real life. They call him "K.K. Ichikawa" in the film. He later got offed by the Yakuza with a katana, because why not. He also had a run-in with The Donald at one point.
https://www.nytimes.com/1992/01/12/us/a ... lions.html
I also think of Remo as being part Buccieri. One thing that is kind of weird in Casino, was that in the beginning where they're explaining how the Tangiers got their money through the Teamsters they say Detroit was part of it. But actually Detroit had no part of the whole Argent deal. They had their own stuff going on in Nevada(Aladdin and The Edgewater in Laughlin) but weren't part of The whole Glick situation.
[quote=Ivan post_id=84987 time=1533309086 user_id=64]
[quote=Ed post_id=84966 time=1533295565 user_id=153]
As Ivan pointed out, Rosenthal had a previous history of violent behaviour and you don't rise to the top without being a cagey operator.
[/quote]
Well, actually, you're the one who pointed it out, I just pointed out that you pointed it out. :mrgreen:
There's a passage in Casino (the book) where an agent kind of scoffs at the idea of Lefty being nonviolent, saying that it's impossible to be around the kind of guys he hung out with as much as he did without getting some blood on you yourself.
[quote=B. post_id=84961 time=1533281733 user_id=127]
Great timing. I re-watched Casino recently from start to finish for the first time in over a decade and had a newfound love for it (I used to think it was one of the more boring of the classic mob movies). Been wanting to dig more into the grit behind the scenes, so thanks for this.
[/quote]
B. if you're interested I know more about that movie than anyone in their right mind should, so feel free to inquire about it. It's 90% real but there are a lot of composite characters (Remo is Aiuppa[i] and[/i] Balistrieri, for example) and combination scenes (e.g., the scene toward the end where the guy is whacked in Costa Rica is a combination of Jerry Lisner getting killed by Frank Culotta, and an FBI theory about Jay Vandermark getting killed in Latin America that turned out to be false. BTW the hitman in the scene is played by... wait for it... Frank Culotta. Yes, he got paid to re-enact one of his own murders. Nice work if you can get it!)
You know that the politician played by Dick Smothers was Harry Reid in real life, right?
Also, the Japanese dude whose plane they sabotaged was a gentleman by the name of Akio Kashiwagi in real life. They call him "K.K. Ichikawa" in the film. He later got offed by the Yakuza with a katana, because why not. He also had a run-in with The Donald at one point.
https://www.nytimes.com/1992/01/12/us/a-top-gambler-is-killed-owing-casinos-millions.html
[/quote]
I also think of Remo as being part Buccieri. One thing that is kind of weird in Casino, was that in the beginning where they're explaining how the Tangiers got their money through the Teamsters they say Detroit was part of it. But actually Detroit had no part of the whole Argent deal. They had their own stuff going on in Nevada(Aladdin and The Edgewater in Laughlin) but weren't part of The whole Glick situation.