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Re: 5 Family's Making Ceremonies

by InCamelot » Tue Aug 20, 2024 10:17 am

Unfortunately it looks like most of the lists mentioned on his posts are from the 60s and 70s. The lowest of those being 1979.

Re: 5 Family's Making Ceremonies

by InCamelot » Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:48 am

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:47 am
InCamelot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:36 am Curious as to when the Genovese actually had its smallest membership.
I think it would be a good idea if you went to LCN Bios and read through all the bios of Genovese members because JD always adds when that member is included on the FBIs list of identified members. You can narrow down when the FBI had the least amount of identified members of the Genovese family and that might help you figure out when they were at their smallest.


Like this from his recent Joe Calabro bio;

In June 1979 posthumously included in the FBI's list of 177 identified Genovese Family members.
That is a great tip. Cheers.

Re: 5 Family's Making Ceremonies

by johnny_scootch » Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:47 am

InCamelot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:36 am Curious as to when the Genovese actually had its smallest membership.
I think it would be a good idea if you went to LCN Bios and read through all the bios of Genovese members because JD always adds when that member is included on the FBIs list of identified members. You can narrow down when the FBI had the least amount of identified members of the Genovese family and that might help you figure out when they were at their smallest.


Like this from his recent Joe Calabro bio;

In June 1979 posthumously included in the FBI's list of 177 identified Genovese Family members.

Re: 5 Family's Making Ceremonies

by InCamelot » Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:36 am

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2024 1:28 pm
InCamelot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:27 am Does anyone know if the Genovese ever had a period where they really slowed down on making new guys?
Your question reminds me of a comment Gotti made to Chin at a commission meeting stating the Genovese had over 30 slots to fill and Chin said they would fill those slots when they were ready.

Not sure what year that was though.
I think that was a 1988 meeting. Also read this post from JohnnyS:

The Genovese books were closed in 2014 when O'Nofrio proposed Santaniello for membership. When the indictments came down in 2016, Santaniello and Depergola were definitely not made. As we've seen with other guys it can take years to be made. For example Felice Masullo was first proposed in 2006 and was still waiting 3 years later. Is there any guys we suspect that were straightened out in the early 2010s? I wonder how long their books were closed for. They were reopen by 2016 as Michael Messina was made then.

viewtopic.php?p=272102#p272102

Curious as to when the Genovese actually had its smallest membership.

Re: 5 Family's Making Ceremonies

by johnny_scootch » Mon Aug 19, 2024 1:28 pm

InCamelot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:27 am Does anyone know if the Genovese ever had a period where they really slowed down on making new guys?
Your question reminds me of a comment Gotti made to Chin at a commission meeting stating the Genovese had over 30 slots to fill and Chin said they would fill those slots when they were ready.

Not sure what year that was though.

Re: 5 Family's Making Ceremonies

by InCamelot » Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:27 am

Does anyone know if the Genovese ever had a period where they really slowed down on making new guys?

I recall the Onofrio comment on someone (either Patsy or Danny) not letting any new guys in, but not sure when that comment was made.

Re: 5 Family's Making Ceremonies

by OcSleeper » Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:09 am

Right I do remember you sharing that. So it looks like his induction was somewhere around 2010-2012ish. Thanks Johnny.

Re: 5 Family's Making Ceremonies

by JohnnyS » Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:57 am

OcSleeper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:47 am
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:44 am ?March 2003:
Eugene “Rooster” O’Nofrio
+Several others
Pogo what's the source for O'Nofrio's 2003 induction? In Arillotta's recent Vlad interview about ¾ in he says after he was off the street in 2010 he heard O'Nofrio was inducted. He said he was proposed by Bruno in 2003 but of course Bruno ended up killed and O'Nofrio "ran away" and didn't end up getting inducted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS82h0MLMgY
Yeah he was supposed to be made in 2003. John Ardito and Pasquale Deluca were going to travel to Springfield or Connecticut (can't remember off the top of my head) to induct O'Nofrio and four other guys some of them from Boston, Connecticut etc but the ceremony didn't end up going ahead. John Bologna claimed in his 302's that O'Nofrio was knocked back. He was still on a proposed members list that was seized in December 2007. viewtopic.php?p=264704#p264704 And I remember seeing him named in an affidavit from 2004/2005 and he was still listed as an associate in Ianniello's crew.

Re: 5 Family's Making Ceremonies

by OcSleeper » Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:47 am

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:44 am ?March 2003:
Eugene “Rooster” O’Nofrio
+Several others
Pogo what's the source for O'Nofrio's 2003 induction? In Arillotta's recent Vlad interview about ¾ in he says after he was off the street in 2010 he heard O'Nofrio was inducted. He said he was proposed by Bruno in 2003 but of course Bruno ended up killed and O'Nofrio "ran away" and didn't end up getting inducted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS82h0MLMgY

Re: 5 Family's Making Ceremonies

by bn » Sat Aug 03, 2024 8:14 am

According to Genovese CI Info, Joseph Scarpinito was made in or around 1956 and was sponsored by Peter DeFeo.

Re: 5 Families Making Ceremonies

by chin_gigante » Fri Aug 02, 2024 5:46 am

chin_gigante wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:59 pm
The timeline I have then:

[...]

1988:
Anthony Calagna
George Conte
Joseph D'Arco
Anthony Senter
Joseph Testa
+ 2 others

October/ November 1989 (5 made in total):
Joseph DeFede
Michael DeSantis
Frank Federico
Richard Pagliarulo
Frank Papagni (possibly 1988?)

March 1991:
Thomas Anzeulotto
Peter Del Cioppo
Santo Giampa
Patrick Testa
Rocco Vitulli
Updating these three ceremonies based on the information from D'Arco's 302s that Little_Al1991 shared: viewtopic.php?t=12656

1988:
Anthony Calagna (sponsored by and assigned to S Avellino)
George Conte (sponsored by Casso, assigned to R Amuso)
Joseph D'Arco (sponsored by V Amuso, assigned to his father)
Anthony Senter (sponsored by V Amuso and Casso, assigned to R Amuso)
Joseph Testa (sponsored by V Amuso and Casso, assigned to R Amuso)
Joseph Truncale (sponsored by V Amuso, assigned to R Amuso)

November 1989:
Joseph DeFede (sponsored by V Amuso, assigned to R Amuso)
Michael DeSantis (sponsored by and assigned to Chiodo)
Frank Federico (sponsored by and assigned to Baratta)
Richard Pagliarulo (sponsored by Casso, assigned to Chiodo)
Frank Papagni (sponsored by Casso, assigned to R Amuso)

March 1991:
Thomas Anzeulotto (sponsored by and assigned to Daidone - acting for D'Arco)
Peter Del Cioppo (sponsored by and assigned to D'Arco)
Thomas Gelardo (sponsored by and assigned to Crea)
Frank Giacobbe (sponsored by Casso and Zappola, assigned to Lastorino)
Santo Giampa (sponsored by and assigned to J Giampa)
Patrick Testa (sponsored by V Amuso, assigned to Lastorino)
Rocco Vitulli (sponsored by and assigned to Baratta)

Re: 5 Family's Making Ceremonies

by furiofromnaples » Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:52 am

There is a list of mobsters inducted in the last 5 years?

Re: 5 Family's Making Ceremonies

by B. » Thu Mar 07, 2024 2:46 pm

Wonder the exact year Robilotto got made. He was a Genovese associate who couldn't be made because of an immediate relation to a cop but he was then released and made by Anastasia.

Re: 5 Family's Making Ceremonies

by bn » Thu Mar 07, 2024 2:20 pm

In the early 1950s John Robilotto sponsored Alfred Eppolito and John 'Jake' Morelli for membership.

Re: 5 Family's Making Ceremonies

by johnny_scootch » Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:31 pm

The Gene Borello book has Ronnie G being made in 1994, Mike Palmaccio in 2002 and Mike Padavona in 2011. It clarifies that Padavona was supposed to be made in the same ceremony as Ronnie G but he ended up in a beef with John Gottis son Peter shortly before it which led him into an argument with Vinny Asaro and so he was pulled from that ceremony and held down by Asaro for many years.

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