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Re: Gangland - 3/15/18

by gohnjotti » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:51 pm

Luca Brasi wrote: Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:28 pm
gohnjotti wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:30 pm "Festa, 39, also agreed to forfeit $500,000. He is slated to pay $140,000 on sentencing day. The $360,000 balance will be paid off in monthly $1000 installments, beginning six months after he gets out of prison. His payments will end 30 years later."

This made me think about how many other wiseguys are paying back huge forfeitures when they are elderly. I imagine it's very common for mobsters to have to consistently pay back monthly installments until their 70s and 80s, which could be another reason why wiseguys never seem to retire.
One thing though is when it comes to OC fortfeitures that are cash, the govt already has it in hand from the raid itself for the most part. So it's more of a signature at sentencing. The payments afterwards are a joke. If you know what you are doing, you pay $50 a month just to be on the books. "Oh Im struggling for work, as a convicted felon"...blah blah. They can't do much because you are bagging groceries at Demoula's. And whether it is a fine or whatever my old man and uncle have been paying back their conviction fortfeitures\fines forever. Just to give you some insight my old man was convicted in 1990 and uncle was in 2007. Take care,

Luca
Good stuff Luca, thanks.

Re: Gangland - 3/15/18

by Wiseguy » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:11 pm

Luca Brasi wrote: Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:51 pm Doobz lets just say i had Arizona winning it in every pool i entered... Tells you how great college bball stunk this year.. Haha Take care,

Luca
Glad I didn't pick Arizona or Virginia.

Re: Gangland - 3/15/18

by Luca Brasi » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:51 pm

Doobz lets just say i had Arizona winning it in every pool i entered... Tells you how great college bball stunk this year.. Haha Take care,

Luca

Re: Gangland - 3/15/18

by Doobeez » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:08 pm

Good read. Thanks for posting the article, chucky..

Luca, good seeing you posting here. How's the NCAA tourney, treating you?

Re: Gangland - 3/15/18

by Luca Brasi » Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:28 pm

gohnjotti wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:30 pm "Festa, 39, also agreed to forfeit $500,000. He is slated to pay $140,000 on sentencing day. The $360,000 balance will be paid off in monthly $1000 installments, beginning six months after he gets out of prison. His payments will end 30 years later."

This made me think about how many other wiseguys are paying back huge forfeitures when they are elderly. I imagine it's very common for mobsters to have to consistently pay back monthly installments until their 70s and 80s, which could be another reason why wiseguys never seem to retire.
One thing though is when it comes to OC fortfeitures that are cash, the govt already has it in hand from the raid itself for the most part. So it's more of a signature at sentencing. The payments afterwards are a joke. If you know what you are doing, you pay $50 a month just to be on the books. "Oh Im struggling for work, as a convicted felon"...blah blah. They can't do much because you are bagging groceries at Demoula's. And whether it is a fine or whatever my old man and uncle have been paying back their conviction fortfeitures\fines forever. Just to give you some insight my old man was convicted in 1990 and uncle was in 2007. Take care,

Luca

Re: Gangland - 3/15/18

by JeremyTheJew » Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:54 pm

"
Semplice, a member of the Gambino family's Sicilian faction, which now controls the crime family, "

Re: Gangland - 3/15/18

by gohnjotti » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:30 pm

"Festa, 39, also agreed to forfeit $500,000. He is slated to pay $140,000 on sentencing day. The $360,000 balance will be paid off in monthly $1000 installments, beginning six months after he gets out of prison. His payments will end 30 years later."

This made me think about how many other wiseguys are paying back huge forfeitures when they are elderly. I imagine it's very common for mobsters to have to consistently pay back monthly installments until their 70s and 80s, which could be another reason why wiseguys never seem to retire.

Re: Gangland - 3/15/18

by gohnjotti » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:13 pm

Seems like the Zips still have a presence in the Bonanno family. Damiano Zummo, Sal Russo and Paul Ragusa are all Italian nationals, as was Vincenzo Morena. And Paul Semplice was explicitly named as being a member of the Gambino's Sicilian faction.

Re: Gangland - 3/15/18

by SonnyBlackstein » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:08 pm

Great stuff, thanks SP

Re: Gangland - 3/15/18

by SonnyBlackstein » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:07 pm

“None of the guilty pleas involve any dealings the Bonannos had with key turncoat Gene Borrello, the former one man crime wave from Howard Beach who helped Argentieri, and prosecutors Gerdes and Matthew Edelman make cases against Asaro, Ronnie G & Company, and John J. Gotti.”

This is an incredibly ambiguous statement.

Does this mean that there will be further/additional charges relating to Borrello or are these pleas to loansharking under the agreement that no further charges (relating to Borrello) will be made?

Re: Gangland - 3/15/18

by SILENT PARTNERZ » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:05 pm

Here ya go SonnyB.

Image

Re: Gangland - 3/15/18

by SonnyBlackstein » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:57 am

Thanks for the post.
Thanks for the pics.

Isn’t there a pick of Paul Semplice?

Re: Gangland - 3/15/18

by SILENT PARTNERZ » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:55 am

Rocco wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:39 am
SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:08 am Image
that house screams arrest me all over it......
Yes it does. LOL
Here in ATL, we call houses like that one
a McMansion. Tear down an older, small house, and
erect a massive new one on a tiny lot. Considering he
probably had not job, it was a 'bust me' beacon

Re: Gangland - 3/15/18

by Rocco » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:39 am

SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:08 am Image
that house screams arrest me all over it......

Re: Gangland - 3/15/18

by Hailbritain » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:02 am

Still no picture of Zummo ??

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