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Re: Looking info on few Outfit guys.

by Villain » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:39 am

In addition so you wont get confused, Pranno answered to Teets Battaglia, who in 1964 became the main "General" or underboss (same as Phil D'Andrea) by controlling a large territory which included Melrose Park, Stone Park, Franklyn Park, Northlake, Lawndale, Schiller Park, Bellwood (and possibly DuPage, Kane, McHenry counties through Daddono and part from the Near North Side or Rush Street through Caifano) and also had jurisdiction over the First Ward, before becoming the official chief executive in 1966 until 1967, and was succeeded by Phil Alderisio as underboss, who in turn was one of the so-called creators of the future Grand Av group, which later was headed by one of his underlings Joey Lombardo. In plane words, even though many researchers believe that the Grand Av crew came from Alderisio's group, still I personally believe that the crew's main roots came from Pranno's territory. You see, Alderisio became the "General" at the time, who took Battaglia's place as captain of the large territory, First Ward and also held the underboss position (same as his predecessors such as D'Andrea, Ferraro, Battaglia).

*General- I personally invented this term to explain a higher level captain who usually also held the underboss position, controlled the First Ward and also oversaw one or two "lower level" captains or a crew of overseers

Re: Looking info on few Outfit guys.

by Villain » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:02 am

Eline2015 wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:33 am
Villain wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:16 am
Eline2015 wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:02 pm
Villain wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:04 pm Also Phil D'andrea was the one time boss of the biggest area including the First Ward and Near South Side and Loop, Chinatown and South Side and during one short period he also had operations in Calumet City, before going under the Chicago Heights crew. I also believe that during the 1930s D'Andrea was the Outfit's underboss and Bruno Roti became his number two guy, the same moment when Jimmy Belcastro transfered on the West Side after one internal conflict. After the death of D'Andrea, his territory was divided between Roti (Chinatown and South Side) and Frank Ferraro (First Ward, Near South Side and Loop)
Many thnks, Villain. And what about Jimmy Lap, Jimmy Cozzo and Solano
You're welcome Eline2015 and also sorry since I dont know much regarding the guys from 80s. For example, at the beginning I always thought that Solano being Prio's chauffer was a myth, but in the end it came out that he really held that position but only as a substitute driver since he also was the main messenger between Prio and Giancana. Also Solano and Prio had shared interest in the infamous Tourch Club. So I have only general info regarding Solano like he being the main official in Local 1, for quite a long period, also being DiBella's successor and he was also very close to Lenny Patrick and Dave Yaras. Later Dave's son, Lenny Yaras was direct with Solano.

As for Cozzo, all I know is that he had an arrest record dating from the late 1950s which also included narcotics, also belonged to the Grand Av crew and during the mid or late 1980s, I dont remember, he oversaw one casino on the Caribbean island of Curacao, which in fact was a money laundering operation and was previously financied by the Teamster pension fund.

And I also want to state that the old Chinatown crew, which started with D'Andrea, then Roti and ended with Frank Caruso, later or after Caruso's retirement, the group was succeeded by the Fiore Buccieri crew from the West Side and Cicero areas. In addition, Roti Sr.'s son was Fred Roti who in turn had a grandson i think named Fred Bruno Barbara, long time resident of Chinatown, garbage and trucking magnate and possible Outfit member.
So Jhonny apes is also a west side guy, like lapietra's?
I think that Monteleone started in Northlake under Pranno but Im not sure. His close associates at the time were Frank Rago, Eugene Marino and Angelo Petitt and they all started as pro burglars from those areas, meaning Pranno's territories which included Stone Park, Franklyn Park and Northlake. These guys also cooperated with Richard Cain in the same business

Re: Looking info on few Outfit guys.

by Eline2015 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:33 am

Villain wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:16 am
Eline2015 wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:02 pm
Villain wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:04 pm Also Phil D'andrea was the one time boss of the biggest area including the First Ward and Near South Side and Loop, Chinatown and South Side and during one short period he also had operations in Calumet City, before going under the Chicago Heights crew. I also believe that during the 1930s D'Andrea was the Outfit's underboss and Bruno Roti became his number two guy, the same moment when Jimmy Belcastro transfered on the West Side after one internal conflict. After the death of D'Andrea, his territory was divided between Roti (Chinatown and South Side) and Frank Ferraro (First Ward, Near South Side and Loop)
Many thnks, Villain. And what about Jimmy Lap, Jimmy Cozzo and Solano
You're welcome Eline2015 and also sorry since I dont know much regarding the guys from 80s. For example, at the beginning I always thought that Solano being Prio's chauffer was a myth, but in the end it came out that he really held that position but only as a substitute driver since he also was the main messenger between Prio and Giancana. Also Solano and Prio had shared interest in the infamous Tourch Club. So I have only general info regarding Solano like he being the main official in Local 1, for quite a long period, also being DiBella's successor and he was also very close to Lenny Patrick and Dave Yaras. Later Dave's son, Lenny Yaras was direct with Solano.

As for Cozzo, all I know is that he had an arrest record dating from the late 1950s which also included narcotics, also belonged to the Grand Av crew and during the mid or late 1980s, I dont remember, he oversaw one casino on the Caribbean island of Curacao, which in fact was a money laundering operation and was previously financied by the Teamster pension fund.

And I also want to state that the old Chinatown crew, which started with D'Andrea, then Roti and ended with Frank Caruso, later or after Caruso's retirement, the group was succeeded by the Fiore Buccieri crew from the West Side and Cicero areas. In addition, Roti Sr.'s son was Fred Roti who in turn had a grandson i think named Fred Bruno Barbara, long time resident of Chinatown, garbage and trucking magnate and possible Outfit member.
So Jhonny apes is also a west side guy, like lapietra's?

Re: Looking info on few Outfit guys.

by Villain » Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:16 am

Eline2015 wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:02 pm
Villain wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:04 pm Also Phil D'andrea was the one time boss of the biggest area including the First Ward and Near South Side and Loop, Chinatown and South Side and during one short period he also had operations in Calumet City, before going under the Chicago Heights crew. I also believe that during the 1930s D'Andrea was the Outfit's underboss and Bruno Roti became his number two guy, the same moment when Jimmy Belcastro transfered on the West Side after one internal conflict. After the death of D'Andrea, his territory was divided between Roti (Chinatown and South Side) and Frank Ferraro (First Ward, Near South Side and Loop)
Many thnks, Villain. And what about Jimmy Lap, Jimmy Cozzo and Solano
You're welcome Eline2015 and also sorry since I dont know much regarding the guys from 80s. For example, at the beginning I always thought that Solano being Prio's chauffer was a myth, but in the end it came out that he really held that position but only as a substitute driver since he also was the main messenger between Prio and Giancana. Also Solano and Prio had shared interest in the infamous Tourch Club. So I have only general info regarding Solano like he being the main official in Local 1, for quite a long period, also being DiBella's successor and he was also very close to Lenny Patrick and Dave Yaras. Later Dave's son, Lenny Yaras was direct with Solano.

As for Cozzo, all I know is that he had an arrest record dating from the late 1950s which also included narcotics, also belonged to the Grand Av crew and during the mid or late 1980s, I dont remember, he oversaw one casino on the Caribbean island of Curacao, which in fact was a money laundering operation and was previously financied by the Teamster pension fund.

And I also want to state that the old Chinatown crew, which started with D'Andrea, then Roti and ended with Frank Caruso, later or after Caruso's retirement, the group was succeeded by the Fiore Buccieri crew from the West Side and Cicero areas. In addition, Roti Sr.'s son was Fred Roti who in turn had a grandson i think named Fred Bruno Barbara, long time resident of Chinatown, garbage and trucking magnate and possible Outfit member.

Re: Looking info on few Outfit guys.

by Eline2015 » Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:02 pm

Villain wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:04 pm Also Phil D'andrea was the one time boss of the biggest area including the First Ward and Near South Side and Loop, Chinatown and South Side and during one short period he also had operations in Calumet City, before going under the Chicago Heights crew. I also believe that during the 1930s D'Andrea was the Outfit's underboss and Bruno Roti became his number two guy, the same moment when Jimmy Belcastro transfered on the West Side after one internal conflict. After the death of D'Andrea, his territory was divided between Roti (Chinatown and South Side) and Frank Ferraro (First Ward, Near South Side and Loop)
Many thnks, Villain. And what about Jimmy Lap, Jimmy Cozzo and Solano

Re: Looking info on few Outfit guys.

by Villain » Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:04 pm

Also Phil D'andrea was the one time boss of the biggest area including the First Ward and Near South Side and Loop, Chinatown and South Side and during one short period he also had operations in Calumet City, before going under the Chicago Heights crew. I also believe that during the 1930s D'Andrea was the Outfit's underboss and Bruno Roti became his number two guy, the same moment when Jimmy Belcastro transfered on the West Side after one internal conflict. After the death of D'Andrea, his territory was divided between Roti (Chinatown and South Side) and Frank Ferraro (First Ward, Near South Side and Loop)

Re: Looking info on few Outfit guys.

by Villain » Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:04 pm

Snakes wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:00 pm Eboli was DeChiaro's nephew, if I'm not mistaken. I think that DeChiaro was married to a sister of Tommy. I'll have to double check that.
I believe you're right because they were related through marriage but previously I wasnt sure about it

Re: Looking info on few Outfit guys.

by Snakes » Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:00 pm

Eboli was DeChiaro's nephew, if I'm not mistaken. I think that DeChiaro was married to a sister of Tommy. I'll have to double check that.

Re: Looking info on few Outfit guys.

by Villain » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:50 am

Thanks Snakes and also in addition, Louie Eboli and his father Tommy, were somehow related to Guido DeChiaro, one of Paul Ricca's closest associates in the coin machine business. In fact, DeChiaro was in charge for looking after Tommy's sons in Chicago, including Louie and Tommy Jr. So Louie started his career in the Stone Park and Franklyn Park areas and together with Sam Ariola and Guy Cervone controlled a large coin machine racket and they were quite ruthless. If a guy was caught for cheating on some coin machine, he was usually arrested by the local corrupt cops and from the station the chater was turned over to Eboli or Cervone who later viciously beaten their victim. When Sam Battaglia went to prison, his brother Joseph continued to look after his personal interests with Eboli's help. The two of them held meetings in a tavern which was near Melrose Park City Hall and since Joe Amabile (Pranno's successor) also joined Battaglia in prison, Eboli became the overseer of the Stone Park, Franklyn Park and Northlake areas, which in fact were the same areas that brought some members for the newly formed Grand Av crew.

Re: Looking info on few Outfit guys.

by Snakes » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:47 am

That's correct. Amato was brought up there by Daddano.

Re: Looking info on few Outfit guys.

by Villain » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:22 am

Maybe Im wrong and somebody correct me but I think that Amato came under Daddono and later inherited a part from his territory, who in turn, meaning Daddono, previously controlled DuPage, Kane and McHenry counties.

Re: Looking info on few Outfit guys.

by Snakes » Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:22 am

I've heard conflicting reports on that. If you wanted my honest opinion, I'd say no.

Out of the guys you listed, Inendino was the only one who did any serious time. As Pete said, he was in the Wild Bunch and was one of Turk Torello's top loan sharks in the late seventies. Definitely a guy on the rise. He went to prison around the time Turk died. I think a lot of the problems in the Wild Bunch stemmed from him being imprisoned.

Re: Looking info on few Outfit guys.

by Frank » Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:47 am

Wasn't there bad blood between Joe Amato and the Infelise crew

Re: Looking info on few Outfit guys.

by Pete » Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:35 am

Eline2015 wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:49 am Hello, everyone. I'm looking info or background of Outfit guys, which is very hard to find on the internet:
1. Jimmy LaPietra
2. Jimmy Inendino
3. Vince Solano
4. Black Joe Amato
5. Louie Eboli
6. Jimmy Cozzo
7. Phil D'Andrea
8. Bruno Roti
Jimmy inendino was born in 42. Made member who was part of the Cicero crew, came up under joe ferriola and worked closely with joes nephew harry aleman. Member of the wild bunch which was a sub crew in Cicero and involved in numerous hits. 5 or 6 federal convictions did a lot of time for hijacking, robbery, and was involved in the Cicero corruption case. Currently high ranking and depending on who you listen to could be the boss of the Cicero crew

Re: Looking info on few Outfit guys.

by Confederate » Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:13 am

Eline2015 wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:05 am
Confederate wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:03 am 1). 26th street Crew and later became a boss when his brother went to Jail. Deceased.
2). I think he is with Cicero has some kind of trucking company. Older guy.
3). Former Boss of the north side Rush St. Crew. Deceased
4). Former Boss of McHenry County. Deceased
5). Underboss to Lombardo of Grand Avenue Crew. Deceased.
6). Made guy in the Grand Avenue Crew. Deceased.
7). I think he was a bodyguard for Capone. Deceased
8). I think he was the boss of the 26th St. a long time ago. Deceased.
I mean, when they're born, arrests and etc.
That would be a question for Antiliar or maybe Snakes. I only know about them in general.

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