by Angelo Santino » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:18 am
johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:15 pm
Chris Christie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:35 pm
For Fernandez to travel to Palermo and expect to be recognized as made...
Chris how are you making this inference that he
expected to be recognized as made?
If I remember correctly that whole convo he had about being made was with a non made guy.
If he was actually made he'd have been breaking the rules right there.
From what he spoke and how he conducted himself, he was an crocodile expecting to be accepted as an alligator. And Made or not, associates are constantly told things by members, dozens of examples of this.
Here's one article where I formed what little opinion I have of this. It's not something I'm going to fervently argue since there's hardly enough information but I'm also not going to the opposite extreme and say that there is entirely no truth to this. Need more info, another informant proving or disproving this.
In Palermo, Fernandez also met all the local crime bosses. Despite being outlaws, mafiosi have rules of etiquette and Fernandez followed them. He extended greetings from his Canadian master — the Rizzuto name carried weight — and was accepted into Palermo’s crowded underworld.
Most perplexing, to both police and mobsters, was Fernandez’s insistence on being treated as a “man of honour” in Sicily. As a non-Italian, he could not be a “made” member of the Mafia according to the mob’s centuries-old tradition. But Fernandez claimed he was an exception; along with his long-time friend, Quebecer Raynald Desjardins, he claimed Vito Rizzuto had inducted him into the Mafia.
They tapped his phones, his friends' phones, his car, home and even the street outside his apartment.
“Vito ‘made’ me and my compare, Raynald,” Fernandez said, according to wiretaps obtained by the National Post.
“You’re not Italian,” his visitor retorted, “there are rules.”
“Show some respect. I sit at the right hand of God, that’s how close I am,” Fernandez said of his relationship with Rizzuto. “The rule is: ‘The boss makes the fucking rules.’”
http://nationalpost.com/gangland-confid ... -the-mafia[quote=johnny_scootch post_id=61951 time=1511226923 user_id=105]
[quote="Chris Christie" post_id=61944 time=1511217343 user_id=69]
For Fernandez to travel to Palermo and expect to be recognized as made... [/quote]
Chris how are you making this inference that he [i]expected[/i] to be recognized as made?
If I remember correctly that whole convo he had about being made was with a non made guy.
If he was actually made he'd have been breaking the rules right there.
[/quote]
From what he spoke and how he conducted himself, he was an crocodile expecting to be accepted as an alligator. And Made or not, associates are constantly told things by members, dozens of examples of this.
Here's one article where I formed what little opinion I have of this. It's not something I'm going to fervently argue since there's hardly enough information but I'm also not going to the opposite extreme and say that there is entirely no truth to this. Need more info, another informant proving or disproving this.
[quote]In Palermo, Fernandez also met all the local crime bosses. Despite being outlaws, mafiosi have rules of etiquette and Fernandez followed them. He extended greetings from his Canadian master — the Rizzuto name carried weight — and was accepted into Palermo’s crowded underworld.[/quote]
[quote]Most perplexing, to both police and mobsters, was Fernandez’s insistence on being treated as a “man of honour” in Sicily. As a non-Italian, he could not be a “made” member of the Mafia according to the mob’s centuries-old tradition. But Fernandez claimed he was an exception; along with his long-time friend, Quebecer Raynald Desjardins, he claimed Vito Rizzuto had inducted him into the Mafia.
They tapped his phones, his friends' phones, his car, home and even the street outside his apartment.
“Vito ‘made’ me and my compare, Raynald,” Fernandez said, according to wiretaps obtained by the National Post.
“You’re not Italian,” his visitor retorted, “there are rules.”
“Show some respect. I sit at the right hand of God, that’s how close I am,” Fernandez said of his relationship with Rizzuto. “The rule is: ‘The boss makes the fucking rules.’”[/quote]
http://nationalpost.com/gangland-confidential-a-made-in-canada-killing-in-the-birthplace-of-the-mafia