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Re: Bonanno captains in 2000 question

by Chopper » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:21 pm

chubby wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:10 pm Vinny jr is made... they should have told cicale they had the money and they should have met up with him and stomped his ass out
Thats the first thing they thought off believe that. Problem is you'd have a 90 % change Cicale would have the Feds watching his back.

Re: Bonanno captains in 2000 question

by SonnyBlackstein » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:48 pm

Re: Bonanno captains in 2000 question

by phatmatress777 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:37 pm

It's funny the rats that get hooked up with ed scarpo are usually all like that... alite is prob the best example


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Re: Bonanno captains in 2000 question

by dixiemafia » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:03 pm

chubby wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:12 pm Shows you how dumb and desperate cicale really is thinking Vinnys kids would be dumb enough to fall for his story. Yeah give me 75k and I'll get your dad who's in supermax out of prison... Sounds great.. funny in one of those cicale interviews he talks like he was the biggest earner ever in the history of the streets and that all the other skippers and soldiers couldn't rub 2 penny's together. If he was such an earner he wouldn't have to try to extort vinnys sons.
That proves my point that we can't take everything he says as the truth.

Re: Bonanno captains in 2000 question

by chubby » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:12 pm

Shows you how dumb and desperate cicale really is thinking Vinnys kids would be dumb enough to fall for his story. Yeah give me 75k and I'll get your dad who's in supermax out of prison... Sounds great.. funny in one of those cicale interviews he talks like he was the biggest earner ever in the history of the streets and that all the other skippers and soldiers couldn't rub 2 penny's together. If he was such an earner he wouldn't have to try to extort vinnys sons.

Re: Bonanno captains in 2000 question

by chubby » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:10 pm

Vinny jr is made... they should have told cicale they had the money and they should have met up with him and stomped his ass out

Re: Bonanno captains in 2000 question

by Chucky » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:34 pm

dixiemafia wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:04 pm
johnny_scootch wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:13 pmReally?
Of course. They are only making a tv series out of it right now. Why not cash in on it?
That's quite a limb you're going out on

Re: Bonanno captains in 2000 question

by dixiemafia » Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:04 pm

johnny_scootch wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:13 pmReally?
Of course. They are only making a tv series out of it right now. Why not cash in on it?

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Bonanno captains in 2000 question

by Fughedaboutit » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:20 pm

Lupara wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:23 pm
Fughedaboutit wrote:As far as rats go, the guy is near the bottom of the scumbag list.
That's a pretty bold and ironic statement when there are others such as Anthony Casso to compare him with. It really is a petty argument to discount a mobster's credibility when they all make a living out of extortion and murder. Some agenda you were saying?
Yeah

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Bonanno captains in 2000 question

by Lupara » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:23 pm

Fughedaboutit wrote:As far as rats go, the guy is near the bottom of the scumbag list.
That's a pretty bold and ironic statement when there are others such as Anthony Casso to compare him with. It really is a petty argument to discount a mobster's credibility when they all make a living out of extortion and murder. Some agenda you were saying?

Re: Bonanno captains in 2000 question

by johnny_scootch » Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:13 pm

dixiemafia wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:27 am To be fair, Cicale gains a lot by saying things like that because he knows at least in our circles Montreal is a hot topic.

Really?

Re: RE: Re: Bonanno captains in 2000 question

by Chucky » Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:55 pm

Fughedaboutit wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:48 pm
Lupara wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:40 am
Fughedaboutit wrote:Cicale also isn't the most reliable person imo

He tried to extort Vinny's kids saying he could get him out of prison for money lol
You make it seem as if other mobsters are honorable, lol. They are all scumbags who fucked people over or worse. Based on that logic each one of them can be considered unreliable. Extorting 'Vinny's kids' sounds like a mean thing to do were it not that Vinny's kids are in the life themselves.
Not all of Vinny's kids are in the life.

As far as rats go, the guy is near the bottom of the scumbag list.

Sounds like you have quite the agenda, pal.
And what would Lupara's agenda be exactly? He's not arguing that Cicale isn't a scumbag, he's just saying that's par for the course. Cicale being a piece of shit doesn't discredit what he said in relation to Montreal.

Re: Bonanno captains in 2000 question

by Fughedaboutit » Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:49 pm

dixiemafia wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:27 am To be fair, Cicale gains a lot by saying things like that because he knows at least in our circles Montreal is a hot topic. I also don't believe him, and Massino/Vitale were back and forth it seems too. Didn't Massino say Sonny Black was killed over a power grab? Massino was known to clilp folks over any reason, but I believe it was over the Brasco embarrassment. So I would say the truth is somewhere in between.

Lupara, wasn't Sciascia distantly kin to Rizzuto? I could have sworn it said somewhere they were cousins in one of the Montreal books but I could be wrong.

But I think what Fughedaboutit was getting at was Cicale acts honorable and reliable but after all he was scummy enough to go after someone's kids. I don't know how deep Vinny's kids were but wouldn't they have been untouchable if Vinny was out? I don't think he was saying they were "innocent kids" but it shows just how nasty and rotten he can be. Hard to take his word as gospel when you would do that, tells me that you will say anything to get it printed.
Yeah I mean, after he ratted...he tried to extort them off the pretense of getting their father out of jail, when that was never even a possibility.

But the guy just wanted the chance to call mobsters scumbags I guess

:lol:

Re: RE: Re: Bonanno captains in 2000 question

by Fughedaboutit » Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:48 pm

Lupara wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:40 am
Fughedaboutit wrote:Cicale also isn't the most reliable person imo

He tried to extort Vinny's kids saying he could get him out of prison for money lol
You make it seem as if other mobsters are honorable, lol. They are all scumbags who fucked people over or worse. Based on that logic each one of them can be considered unreliable. Extorting 'Vinny's kids' sounds like a mean thing to do were it not that Vinny's kids are in the life themselves.
Not all of Vinny's kids are in the life.

As far as rats go, the guy is near the bottom of the scumbag list.

Sounds like you have quite the agenda, pal.

Re: Bonanno captains in 2000 question

by dixiemafia » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:31 am

And Lupara also about getting those transcripts, that would be freaking awesome. We do need to get all we can on Massino and try to solve at least what all was said. I'd also be interested in everything he said at the Rizzuto 3-capos trial too

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