by Wiseguy » Mon May 15, 2017 10:40 pm
HairyKnuckles wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2017 12:01 pm
Wiseguy wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2017 9:09 am
HairyKnuckles wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2017 10:28 pm
None off the top of my head. But we don't have enough info on all the making ceremonies .That doesn't change the fact though that outsiders CAN be invited. Where did Capeci claim there is a longstanding rule against this?
In his book The Idiot's Guide to the Mafia, page 318.
"As Bill Bonanno knows, only family members can attend an induction ceremony. Not La Cosa Nostra members but members of that family. Every FBI informer, every Mafia turncoat, every organized crime expert who has ever testified about it in federal trial has made that clear, from Joe Valachi on down. This information was confirmed at two inductions that were tape-recorded by authorities. There have been several occassions where mobsters were excluded from induction ceremonies of their sons or brothers because they were being "made" by other families."
I don't think that book should be taken that seriously. At least not in the segments where he tries to be clever, combining humor with facts. His funny facts sinks his credibility in my opinion. And I'm sure others agree.
Whether you like him adding humor or not, what he said on the subject stands. I don't see much reason to question it when nobody can think of any credible examples to the contrary. In fact, I don't know where you got the idea that outsiders could attend initiation ceremonies, HK.
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None off the top of my head. But we don't have enough info on all the making ceremonies .That doesn't change the fact though that outsiders CAN be invited. Where did Capeci claim there is a longstanding rule against this?
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In his book The Idiot's Guide to the Mafia, page 318.
"As Bill Bonanno knows, only family members can attend an induction ceremony. Not La Cosa Nostra members but members of that family. Every FBI informer, every Mafia turncoat, every organized crime expert who has ever testified about it in federal trial has made that clear, from Joe Valachi on down. This information was confirmed at two inductions that were tape-recorded by authorities. There have been several occassions where mobsters were excluded from induction ceremonies of their sons or brothers because they were being "made" by other families."
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I don't think that book should be taken that seriously. At least not in the segments where he tries to be clever, combining humor with facts. His funny facts sinks his credibility in my opinion. And I'm sure others agree.
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Whether you like him adding humor or not, what he said on the subject stands. I don't see much reason to question it when nobody can think of any credible examples to the contrary. In fact, I don't know where you got the idea that outsiders could attend initiation ceremonies, HK.