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Re: Sammy the rat

by AlexfromSouth » Sat May 06, 2017 5:48 pm

bronx wrote: Sat May 06, 2017 5:43 pm yes..all is well thank you Alex..how about you..been to bklyn recently
Glad to hear, Lol no not recently. How bout you? If I remmember correct you were born and grew up in Bath beach, im I right?

Re: Sammy the rat

by bronx » Sat May 06, 2017 5:43 pm

yes..all is well thank you Alex..how about you..been to bklyn recently

Re: Sammy the rat

by AlexfromSouth » Sat May 06, 2017 8:54 am

bronx wrote: Sat May 06, 2017 8:51 am he also had a club on bath ave and bay 7th
Who had a club? Joe s NJ?

Re: Sammy the rat

by AlexfromSouth » Sat May 06, 2017 8:52 am

bronx wrote: Sat May 06, 2017 8:50 am Alex joe s. nj was from bensonhurst
Thanx BX. How are you doing buddy, haven't seen you for a while?

Re: Sammy the rat

by bronx » Sat May 06, 2017 8:51 am

he also had a club on bath ave and bay 7th

Re: Sammy the rat

by bronx » Sat May 06, 2017 8:50 am

Alex joe s. nj was from bensonhurst

Re: Sammy the rat

by BillyBrizzi » Sat May 06, 2017 8:11 am

Rocco wrote: Fri May 05, 2017 5:09 pm
BillyBrizzi wrote: Fri May 05, 2017 1:06 pm
Rocco wrote: Tue May 02, 2017 4:44 pm The man took an oath ! Bahahahahaha. Got news for you . There is no such thing as Santa Claus too Oh yeah the Easter Bunny isn't real either. lol
Sammy would not have flipped for a 10yr sentence. He would have took that I believe that. You must be a Gotti Fan. Keep reading those Gotti books. Its all horsehit. Gotti was the #1 problem.
Don't assume so much Rocco, I just tell it like I see it..
Sorry.... the Man took an oath was fuckin funny. Most of those guys would thru their own mother under a bus if they had too. Never mind their fellow criminal associates.
Appreciated Rocco and I couldn't agree more with those statements.

Re: Sammy the rat

by BillyBrizzi » Sat May 06, 2017 8:06 am

bronx wrote: Fri May 05, 2017 6:20 pm sammy blamed everything on everyone else..one fact is true.....he killed his own loyal men...gotti killed non of his guys..except willie boy..gotti had to be scrathcing his head when sam came to him to kill another one of his own crew..sam is evil..gotti a terrible boss..sam and gas belong in the same cell together
Co-signed 100%

Re: Sammy the rat

by AlexfromSouth » Sat May 06, 2017 6:38 am

bronx wrote: Sat May 06, 2017 4:32 am related to joe butch,and gus boy , joe from the nj guys have no relation..
Do you remmber if Joe from the NJ guys was from your neighbourhood?

Re: Sammy the rat

by bronx » Sat May 06, 2017 4:32 am

related to joe butch,and gus boy , joe from the nj guys have no relation..

Re: Sammy the rat

by AlexfromSouth » Sat May 06, 2017 2:10 am

bronx wrote: Fri May 05, 2017 6:16 pm big gus said from his source frank was a c.i...that is how gus gets killed..his source was right on for years..not sure if gus made it up or it was true ..but he should have known he needed real proof not his word to get frank killed..unlees the g lets loose with info we will never know

Do you remmember where was big gus from? And is he in any relation with Joseph Sclafani that went to the Decavs?

Re: Sammy the rat

by SonnyBlackstein » Fri May 05, 2017 7:57 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: Fri May 05, 2017 11:39 amGravano, D'Arco, and Ambrosino all testified that Orena's goal was to become official boss, which is what started the war. Apparently Orena began publicly speaking ill of Carmine Persico with the intention that the Commission would remove him as boss. Orena referred to Persico as a rat for admitting the existence of Cosa Nostra and for talking to a Daily News reporter, plus his talks of doing an interview with 60 Minutes. Gravano was aware of all of this as it was happening and understood Orena's intent.

- In 1991, Carmine Persico sent word that his son Allie Boy would become boss upon his projected release date in 1993. This strained tensions in the family and Orena told Carmine Sessa to begin disparaging Persico to the Colombo capos. He told him to begin referring to Persico as "a rat who should be knocked down", specifically. Sessa instead reported this to capo Teddy Persico.

- When Orena heard that Sessa had refused his order and met with Teddy Persico, he planned to stage a making ceremony where in reality Sessa would be murdered Goodfellas style.

- Sessa heard of Orena's plan to murder him and gathered a hit team in June 1991 who waited outside of Orena's home to kill him. Orena as we well know spotted them and fled. Another Persico hit team was supposed to kill an Orena captain that night but also failed, which caused the hit team to flee to a New Jersey hotel.

- After these attempted murders, the Gambino, Lucchese, and Genovese set up a committee to mediate the dispute. Both Orena and Sessa attended the first meeting, but Sessa refused to attend the subsequent meetings. Orena attended all of the meetings. The Luccheses and Gambinos supported Orena and put the responsibility on him to maintain peace as he controlled more soldiers and was more eager to go to war.

- The "peace" finally ended when an Orena hit team led by Bill Cutolo shot at Greg Scarpa.
Good stuff P/B

Re: Sammy the rat

by NYNighthawk » Fri May 05, 2017 6:27 pm

Bilotti was nothing more than a fat guerilla in a suit. He was a total imbecile and Castellano was a dope for having him around.

Re: Sammy the rat

by bronx » Fri May 05, 2017 6:20 pm

sammy blamed everything on everyone else..one fact is true.....he killed his own loyal men...gotti killed non of his guys..except willie boy..gotti had to be scrathcing his head when sam came to him to kill another one of his own crew..sam is evil..gotti a terrible boss..sam and gas belong in the same cell together

Re: Sammy the rat

by bronx » Fri May 05, 2017 6:16 pm

big gus said from his source frank was a c.i...that is how gus gets killed..his source was right on for years..not sure if gus made it up or it was true ..but he should have known he needed real proof not his word to get frank killed..unlees the g lets loose with info we will never know

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