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Re: Genovese and Pleas

by Rocco » Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:05 am

Morons . They should have plead out.

Re: Genovese and Pleas

by toto » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:09 pm

I think it was mentioned in this board that Gene Gotti received 50 years because Carneglia told a journalist he will piss on the judges grave and that's why the judge gave such a high sentence instead of a more normal one.

Re: Genovese and Pleas

by Rocco » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:35 am

Pete wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:15 pm One of gottis best moves was the no plea rule. If I recall correctly his brother gene had a very reasonable offer on the table he wasn't allowed to take and got 50 years at trial
One of the many reasons GOtti was not well liked outside of Queens. Gotti couldn't get out of his own way.

Re: Genovese and Pleas

by SonnyBlackstein » Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:40 pm

Pete wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:15 pmOne of gottis best moves was the no plea rule
Gene might disagree.

Re: Genovese and Pleas

by Pete » Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:15 pm

One of gottis best moves was the no plea rule. If I recall correctly his brother gene had a very reasonable offer on the table he wasn't allowed to take and got 50 years at trial

Re: Genovese and Pleas

by Pogo The Clown » Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:11 pm

No idea. I would imagine he had a say in a major policy decision like that.


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Re: Genovese and Pleas

by InCamelot » Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:14 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:07 pm It likely started after then Consiglieri Jimmy Ida went to trial and got life while his codefendents (Bellomo, Genoroso among others) took pleas and were out in less than 10 years.


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Was that orders from the Chin to take pleas?

Re: Genovese and Pleas

by Garbageman » Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:11 pm

Around the time Giuliani turned the Southern District of NY into a bionic kick to the balls to whomever dared going to trial.

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Re: Genovese and Pleas

by Pogo The Clown » Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:07 pm

It likely started after then Consiglieri Jimmy Ida went to trial and got life while his codefendents (Bellomo, Genoroso among others) took pleas and were out in less than 10 years.


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Re: Genovese and Pleas

by Wiseguy » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:31 am

Seems like it became common in the 1990s.

Genovese and Pleas

by InCamelot » Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:17 am

When did taking pleas begin to be used as a consistent strategy by the Genovese, and who were the ones who began to do it?

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