by Dwalin2014 » Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:08 pm
OlBlueEyesClub wrote:Dwalin2014 wrote:faffy444 wrote:during that point in history there where a lot of illegal wiretaps all across the country listening in mobsters everywhere. ive always believed that somewhere along the line law enforcement knew of the meeting in advance but because of the illegal listening never had a concerted effort to formally interupt the festivities. there really wasnt any basis legally to raid the barbara home. its why all those captured in the raid had the charges dropped against them.
This can explain why the convictions weren't upheld and why only a part of them were convicted, but what I don't get is why didn't they bring enough cops to capture ALL of them, if they knew about the meeting beforehand? At least they could identify everybody, make conclusions about the importance of each one, based on who did attend and who didn't etc. Instead, they let many escape through the "net", not being there enough cops to block everybody, so the identities of many of the attendees can be only guessed.
If I'm not mistaken, none of the attendants whom were taken into police custody were never formally charged of anything. So there wouldn't be any needs for convictions.
I understand, but my point was that, if they managed to temporarily hold everybody, they could make a COMPLETE list of the attendees, which would be very useful for making a dossier to use for future investigations, since only the key figures of the national-scale Mafia attended (and only several minor figures like drivers or a few bodyguards I think), and it would have been very useful for law enforcement to know the identity of EVERY major player (or almost every major player) of those times. Even if somebody, like Carlos Marcello or Raymond Patriarca for example, didn't attend, the list would have still been useful. I mean, to carry out the raid successfully and not letting anyone escape would have been useful for information purposes, not for an indictment or a trial, that's what I meant...
[quote="OlBlueEyesClub"][quote="Dwalin2014"][quote="faffy444"]during that point in history there where a lot of illegal wiretaps all across the country listening in mobsters everywhere. ive always believed that somewhere along the line law enforcement knew of the meeting in advance but because of the illegal listening never had a concerted effort to formally interupt the festivities. there really wasnt any basis legally to raid the barbara home. its why all those captured in the raid had the charges dropped against them.[/quote]
This can explain why the convictions weren't upheld and why only a part of them were convicted, but what I don't get is why didn't they bring enough cops to capture ALL of them, if they knew about the meeting beforehand? At least they could identify everybody, make conclusions about the importance of each one, based on who did attend and who didn't etc. Instead, they let many escape through the "net", not being there enough cops to block everybody, so the identities of many of the attendees can be only guessed.[/quote]
If I'm not mistaken, none of the attendants whom were taken into police custody were never formally charged of anything. So there wouldn't be any needs for convictions.[/quote]
I understand, but my point was that, if they managed to temporarily hold everybody, they could make a COMPLETE list of the attendees, which would be very useful for making a dossier to use for future investigations, since only the key figures of the national-scale Mafia attended (and only several minor figures like drivers or a few bodyguards I think), and it would have been very useful for law enforcement to know the identity of EVERY major player (or almost every major player) of those times. Even if somebody, like Carlos Marcello or Raymond Patriarca for example, didn't attend, the list would have still been useful. I mean, to carry out the raid successfully and not letting anyone escape would have been useful for information purposes, not for an indictment or a trial, that's what I meant...