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Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Patrickgold » Fri May 16, 2025 2:55 pm

RushStreet wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 12:36 pm
Aunt+Baby wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 10:18 am
RushStreet wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 9:48 am
Aunt+Baby wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 3:39 am
Cosmik_Debris wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 7:13 am The idea the Frank Calabrese Jr. has ANY knowledge of the Outfit in 2025 is comical.
I dunno. I disagree. He’s still in contact with a lot of people from there. He can go to Elmwood Park & they’re too afraid to fuck with him because he’s gov’d up, and he rubs it in their faces.

I heard something a few years back about him & some friends at a sports bar in Elmwood Park watching a Bears game, and Tony Dote & some of his crew were there & they were trying to intimidate him. He held his ground for a while but eventually decided to leave.

He also grew up in Elmwood Park & was close with families like the Dotes, Damicos, Cerones, Spirrizzis, Magnafichis etc all of the Outfit royalty. I maintain he still knows quite a bit about what’s going on but this is his way of insulating them, by downplaying activity publicly. He’s always struck me as a guy who misses the Life
I"m sort of disappointed that the Outfit hasn't atleast fucked him up. The guy lets be honest turned on his father due to his drug addiction and getting caught. He should have been kissing the feet of his father for not killing him the day he found out that he was stealing from him, but of course he's not appreciative of anyone and feels very entitled in life. A spoiled brat is what he is and now he's making money off of this because we have a bunch of dumb fucks who support it.
There is way too much risk in attacking a guy like Jr in 2025. You’re just submitting yourself to double digits behind bars.

Nevertheless, I heard that altercation with him & Dote got pretty tense, and that he felt threatened enough to flee the scene
Is that bar called Tony D's? Makes sense if you put 2 + 2 together.
I doubt a guy like Tony Dote would hang out in Tony D’s. That’s a biker place. It’s owned by a guy named Tony Donato who use to own Donato Towers on Grand and Harlem. Supposedly he won the lottery and bought all these properties. Tony D’s use to be Elmwood Family Restaurant which was a popular breakfast place for years. Tony D bought it and made it a biker bar. Dote was probably at either Tiny Tap or Donny G’s, both on North Ave in EP, if that incident actually did happen. Jr never goes to the places that could have Outfit guys. Kurt does and the other brother is a bartender downtown at a bar on Ontario st

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by RushStreet » Fri May 16, 2025 12:36 pm

Aunt+Baby wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 10:18 am
RushStreet wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 9:48 am
Aunt+Baby wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 3:39 am
Cosmik_Debris wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 7:13 am The idea the Frank Calabrese Jr. has ANY knowledge of the Outfit in 2025 is comical.
I dunno. I disagree. He’s still in contact with a lot of people from there. He can go to Elmwood Park & they’re too afraid to fuck with him because he’s gov’d up, and he rubs it in their faces.

I heard something a few years back about him & some friends at a sports bar in Elmwood Park watching a Bears game, and Tony Dote & some of his crew were there & they were trying to intimidate him. He held his ground for a while but eventually decided to leave.

He also grew up in Elmwood Park & was close with families like the Dotes, Damicos, Cerones, Spirrizzis, Magnafichis etc all of the Outfit royalty. I maintain he still knows quite a bit about what’s going on but this is his way of insulating them, by downplaying activity publicly. He’s always struck me as a guy who misses the Life
I"m sort of disappointed that the Outfit hasn't atleast fucked him up. The guy lets be honest turned on his father due to his drug addiction and getting caught. He should have been kissing the feet of his father for not killing him the day he found out that he was stealing from him, but of course he's not appreciative of anyone and feels very entitled in life. A spoiled brat is what he is and now he's making money off of this because we have a bunch of dumb fucks who support it.
There is way too much risk in attacking a guy like Jr in 2025. You’re just submitting yourself to double digits behind bars.

Nevertheless, I heard that altercation with him & Dote got pretty tense, and that he felt threatened enough to flee the scene
Is that bar called Tony D's? Makes sense if you put 2 + 2 together.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Richards_bar » Fri May 16, 2025 11:20 am

RushStreet wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 9:48 am
Aunt+Baby wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 3:39 am
Cosmik_Debris wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 7:13 am The idea the Frank Calabrese Jr. has ANY knowledge of the Outfit in 2025 is comical.
I dunno. I disagree. He’s still in contact with a lot of people from there. He can go to Elmwood Park & they’re too afraid to fuck with him because he’s gov’d up, and he rubs it in their faces.

I heard something a few years back about him & some friends at a sports bar in Elmwood Park watching a Bears game, and Tony Dote & some of his crew were there & they were trying to intimidate him. He held his ground for a while but eventually decided to leave.

He also grew up in Elmwood Park & was close with families like the Dotes, Damicos, Cerones, Spirrizzis, Magnafichis etc all of the Outfit royalty. I maintain he still knows quite a bit about what’s going on but this is his way of insulating them, by downplaying activity publicly. He’s always struck me as a guy who misses the Life
I"m sort of disappointed that the Outfit hasn't atleast fucked him up. The guy lets be honest turned on his father due to his drug addiction and getting caught. He should have been kissing the feet of his father for not killing him the day he found out that he was stealing from him, but of course he's not appreciative of anyone and feels very entitled in life. A spoiled brat is what he is and now he's making money off of this because we have a bunch of dumb fucks who support it.
Remember, someone did phone in a bomb threat at his local book signing, cancelling it. Also I remember when jr was in that bar and he hightailed it out of there as soon as those guys(dote etc) showed up. He was scared.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Aunt+Baby » Fri May 16, 2025 10:18 am

RushStreet wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 9:48 am
Aunt+Baby wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 3:39 am
Cosmik_Debris wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 7:13 am The idea the Frank Calabrese Jr. has ANY knowledge of the Outfit in 2025 is comical.
I dunno. I disagree. He’s still in contact with a lot of people from there. He can go to Elmwood Park & they’re too afraid to fuck with him because he’s gov’d up, and he rubs it in their faces.

I heard something a few years back about him & some friends at a sports bar in Elmwood Park watching a Bears game, and Tony Dote & some of his crew were there & they were trying to intimidate him. He held his ground for a while but eventually decided to leave.

He also grew up in Elmwood Park & was close with families like the Dotes, Damicos, Cerones, Spirrizzis, Magnafichis etc all of the Outfit royalty. I maintain he still knows quite a bit about what’s going on but this is his way of insulating them, by downplaying activity publicly. He’s always struck me as a guy who misses the Life
I"m sort of disappointed that the Outfit hasn't atleast fucked him up. The guy lets be honest turned on his father due to his drug addiction and getting caught. He should have been kissing the feet of his father for not killing him the day he found out that he was stealing from him, but of course he's not appreciative of anyone and feels very entitled in life. A spoiled brat is what he is and now he's making money off of this because we have a bunch of dumb fucks who support it.
There is way too much risk in attacking a guy like Jr in 2025. You’re just submitting yourself to double digits behind bars.

Nevertheless, I heard that altercation with him & Dote got pretty tense, and that he felt threatened enough to flee the scene

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by RushStreet » Fri May 16, 2025 9:52 am

It blows my mind that he would have the balls to steal money from this father. Who the fuck does that shit? This guy ran to the feds for protection because of the mistakes he made, not because he cared about his father. That is a lie and a huge one at that. He's a sociopathic liar.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by RushStreet » Fri May 16, 2025 9:48 am

Aunt+Baby wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 3:39 am
Cosmik_Debris wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 7:13 am The idea the Frank Calabrese Jr. has ANY knowledge of the Outfit in 2025 is comical.
I dunno. I disagree. He’s still in contact with a lot of people from there. He can go to Elmwood Park & they’re too afraid to fuck with him because he’s gov’d up, and he rubs it in their faces.

I heard something a few years back about him & some friends at a sports bar in Elmwood Park watching a Bears game, and Tony Dote & some of his crew were there & they were trying to intimidate him. He held his ground for a while but eventually decided to leave.

He also grew up in Elmwood Park & was close with families like the Dotes, Damicos, Cerones, Spirrizzis, Magnafichis etc all of the Outfit royalty. I maintain he still knows quite a bit about what’s going on but this is his way of insulating them, by downplaying activity publicly. He’s always struck me as a guy who misses the Life
I"m sort of disappointed that the Outfit hasn't atleast fucked him up. The guy lets be honest turned on his father due to his drug addiction and getting caught. He should have been kissing the feet of his father for not killing him the day he found out that he was stealing from him, but of course he's not appreciative of anyone and feels very entitled in life. A spoiled brat is what he is and now he's making money off of this because we have a bunch of dumb fucks who support it.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Cosmik_Debris » Fri May 16, 2025 8:56 am

Why would a single person still in the life EVER talk to Frank Jr. about the state of the Outfit and crimes they may or may not be committing?

This guy was a dumb fuck when he was active, and that was well over 25 years ago. He ratted out and recorded his OWN FATHER and ran to the feds. Because of his actions, a boss is still currently in a maximum security prison and another high level guy died in prison and the Outfit was pretty much decimated.

Do we really think anyone active in 2025 is giving this clown updates on the current state of the Outfit? Is he calling them up over the phone to chat about it? Are they meeting him in person to talk about it?

Frank Jr. knows probably less about the Outfit today than the people on this message board do.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Patrickgold » Fri May 16, 2025 8:33 am

funkster wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 7:11 am
Cosmik_Debris wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 6:43 am
funkster wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 6:41 am
Cosmik_Debris wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 6:24 am
funkster wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 5:51 am Whoever pointed out that Frank jr. as main source would make it likely Goudie said Accardo was right.

Does anyone remember who jr said told him it was “the old man”? I thought it was someone other than his father.
His brother Kurt told him and swore him not to tell. Here is him telling Michael Franzese the story.

Around the 21 minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUivTwkR5Ps
Hmmm a more recent one I recalled someone with a much closer proximity to these things. Could have sworn he said it was his dad. If it was his brother I’m much less inclined to put much stock in it.
I wouldn't buy it. His brother says here if he would've known it prior, it would've been in his (Frank Jr.'s) book and as soon as he told him, he went straight to the news media.
This is why I don’t put much stock into what he says about the current outfit, he just doesn’t know.
Yes, Kurt claims he told him. Unless I see FBI files from when Jr flipped that says Calabrese Sr told them this rumor, then he is full of shit that his Uncle and Father told him that. Also, where are the FBI files saying Nick told the FBI that rumor?

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by funkster » Fri May 16, 2025 7:11 am

Cosmik_Debris wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 6:43 am
funkster wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 6:41 am
Cosmik_Debris wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 6:24 am
funkster wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 5:51 am Whoever pointed out that Frank jr. as main source would make it likely Goudie said Accardo was right.

Does anyone remember who jr said told him it was “the old man”? I thought it was someone other than his father.
His brother Kurt told him and swore him not to tell. Here is him telling Michael Franzese the story.

Around the 21 minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUivTwkR5Ps
Hmmm a more recent one I recalled someone with a much closer proximity to these things. Could have sworn he said it was his dad. If it was his brother I’m much less inclined to put much stock in it.
I wouldn't buy it. His brother says here if he would've known it prior, it would've been in his (Frank Jr.'s) book and as soon as he told him, he went straight to the news media.
This is why I don’t put much stock into what he says about the current outfit, he just doesn’t know.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Cosmik_Debris » Fri May 16, 2025 6:43 am

funkster wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 6:41 am
Cosmik_Debris wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 6:24 am
funkster wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 5:51 am Whoever pointed out that Frank jr. as main source would make it likely Goudie said Accardo was right.

Does anyone remember who jr said told him it was “the old man”? I thought it was someone other than his father.
His brother Kurt told him and swore him not to tell. Here is him telling Michael Franzese the story.

Around the 21 minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUivTwkR5Ps
Hmmm a more recent one I recalled someone with a much closer proximity to these things. Could have sworn he said it was his dad. If it was his brother I’m much less inclined to put much stock in it.
I wouldn't buy it. His brother says here if he would've known it prior, it would've been in his (Frank Jr.'s) book and as soon as he told him, he went straight to the news media.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by funkster » Fri May 16, 2025 6:41 am

Cosmik_Debris wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 6:24 am
funkster wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 5:51 am Whoever pointed out that Frank jr. as main source would make it likely Goudie said Accardo was right.

Does anyone remember who jr said told him it was “the old man”? I thought it was someone other than his father.
His brother Kurt told him and swore him not to tell. Here is him telling Michael Franzese the story.

Around the 21 minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUivTwkR5Ps
Hmmm a more recent one I recalled someone with a much closer proximity to these things. Could have sworn he said it was his dad. If it was his brother I’m much less inclined to put much stock in it.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Cosmik_Debris » Fri May 16, 2025 6:24 am

funkster wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 5:51 am Whoever pointed out that Frank jr. as main source would make it likely Goudie said Accardo was right.

Does anyone remember who jr said told him it was “the old man”? I thought it was someone other than his father.
His brother Kurt told him and swore him not to tell. Here is him telling Michael Franzese the story.

Around the 21 minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUivTwkR5Ps

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by funkster » Fri May 16, 2025 5:51 am

Whoever pointed out that Frank jr. as main source would make it likely Goudie said Accardo was right.

Does anyone remember who jr said told him it was “the old man”? I thought it was someone other than his father.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Ivan » Fri May 16, 2025 5:16 am

Nothing new in the story except for this nice pic of Momo dead I hadn't seen before.

I eye-rolled at the end where he insinuated that Accardo did the Valentine's Day Massacre.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Aunt+Baby » Fri May 16, 2025 3:41 am

Spizzirris*

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