by NorthBuffalo » Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:56 am
Coloboy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:31 am
Just comparing it to my own life and career, 15 years is a long ass time and a lot can change in that period. I would tend to agree back in 2010 he probably wasn’t near the top of the pecking order in Elmwood Park. With guys passing and getting older, I’d be willing to buy that he’s the top guy in that crew today.
As far as him being boss? I suppose I see no reason not to entertain the idea. All in all, it just reinforces my point that we have no idea what the hell is going on, especially at the top of the outfit. I have to chuckle, because a month or two ago, somebody made a post saying “I don’t know who the boss is, but it definitely isn’t Fratto”, lol.
The only thing I am sure of is whatever the actual top structure looks like, nobody has it right in terms of who is who. I think there would be some surprises if that info were to ever get out
I agree - that said, you do have the 2016 Frontier indictment that came out looking at Elmwood Park (Gagliano, Cassano, D'Amico) and Fratto's name is not mentioned. As Fosco generally indicated, Fratto always had 'protectors' in the Outfit all of whom were that old guard who died - he was never an earner, never a businessman and never a union guy. The only scams he's been linked to are largely greedy independent things - then a really dumb tax evasion charge, which most Outfit 'bosses' simply don't pull until they go broke (case in point Mickey Marcello...)
I think to Snakes point I would counter - the old guard was Frattos' bread and butter - he was protected by Messino/Cerone and by extension DiFronzo - I tend to wonder if guys like Cassano and Gagliano who are really involved in EP based on recent FBI files are actually in charge and Fratto is just 'on the shelf' of sorts today.
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Just comparing it to my own life and career, 15 years is a long ass time and a lot can change in that period. I would tend to agree back in 2010 he probably wasn’t near the top of the pecking order in Elmwood Park. With guys passing and getting older, I’d be willing to buy that he’s the top guy in that crew today.
As far as him being boss? I suppose I see no reason not to entertain the idea. All in all, it just reinforces my point that we have no idea what the hell is going on, especially at the top of the outfit. I have to chuckle, because a month or two ago, somebody made a post saying “I don’t know who the boss is, but it definitely isn’t Fratto”, lol.
The only thing I am sure of is whatever the actual top structure looks like, nobody has it right in terms of who is who. I think there would be some surprises if that info were to ever get out
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I agree - that said, you do have the 2016 Frontier indictment that came out looking at Elmwood Park (Gagliano, Cassano, D'Amico) and Fratto's name is not mentioned. As Fosco generally indicated, Fratto always had 'protectors' in the Outfit all of whom were that old guard who died - he was never an earner, never a businessman and never a union guy. The only scams he's been linked to are largely greedy independent things - then a really dumb tax evasion charge, which most Outfit 'bosses' simply don't pull until they go broke (case in point Mickey Marcello...)
I think to Snakes point I would counter - the old guard was Frattos' bread and butter - he was protected by Messino/Cerone and by extension DiFronzo - I tend to wonder if guys like Cassano and Gagliano who are really involved in EP based on recent FBI files are actually in charge and Fratto is just 'on the shelf' of sorts today.