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Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Coloboy » Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:06 am

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 8:51 am Marcelo has killed a hell of lot more people than the Unabomber. :mrgreen:


Pogo
Likely true.

Reading about the prisoner conditions at ADMAX is wild. From what i can tell, it's also not supposed to be a super long term solution, and he's been there a long ass time. There has to be more to this story than we know (He plotted to murder a judge, plotted to murder another inmate, explicitly ordered Zizzos death from prison??). Although if something that explicit went down, you would think it would have been publicized. This feels like insider baseball shit, like he or his lawyers really pissed off someone important behind the scenes.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by RushStreet » Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:03 am

Paulie is about 55 years old now and its nice to see that he doesn't let age slow him down or act like so many do once they get to the same age. There are so many people once they are in their 50's that feel that going out is against the rules for them anymore. Which I find quite disappointing to carry that attitude in life. Good for him!

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Pogo The Clown » Mon Apr 28, 2025 8:51 am

Marcelo has killed a hell of lot more people than the Unabomber. :mrgreen:


Pogo

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Coloboy » Mon Apr 28, 2025 8:43 am

I know this has been discussed before, but does anyone have additional information/thoughts on why Jimmy Marcello is locked up in supermax? It always seemed like overkill for an LCN guy to be housed with the Unabomber and El Chapo, but I'm sure there is more to the story than I know.

The two things I recall reading were that he was either trying to run the outfit or criminal rackets from prison, or that it was basically a middle finger from the feds due to his multiple appeal attempts. Dude is 81 years old, and spends 23 hours a day in a tiny cell with a 4 inch window.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by NorthBuffalo » Mon Apr 28, 2025 8:02 am

I have a close contact who remains friendly with Pudgy - he had told me there was another pizza place he operates (Jonny & Tonys) in Elmhurst, IL. Clearly, Pudgy has income well beyond that janky union scheme he pulled a few years ago.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Patrickgold » Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:58 am

NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:31 am
Patrickgold wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:21 am
Ivan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:14 am
NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:00 am Taverna on Division is owned by John Matassa's son.
That Greg Vayna guy in the cigar video I linked to is listed as the owner. Does Matassa's son also own a share, or is he himself Matassa's son but uses a different last name for some reason, or what?
I think he sold it to the current guy. There has been two different owners of Taverna. The current bought it a couple of years ago
Here is where I got that - some of the older posts here on GangsterBB are somewhat informative. Did Pudgy's son really go to West Point? http://gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthread ... ber=785662
Yes he sold it. No idea about the West Point connection but will try to find out

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by NorthBuffalo » Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:31 am

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:21 am
Ivan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:14 am
NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:00 am Taverna on Division is owned by John Matassa's son.
That Greg Vayna guy in the cigar video I linked to is listed as the owner. Does Matassa's son also own a share, or is he himself Matassa's son but uses a different last name for some reason, or what?
I think he sold it to the current guy. There has been two different owners of Taverna. The current bought it a couple of years ago
Here is where I got that - some of the older posts here on GangsterBB are somewhat informative. Did Pudgy's son really go to West Point? http://gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthread ... ber=785662

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Patrickgold » Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:21 am

Ivan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:14 am
NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:00 am Taverna on Division is owned by John Matassa's son.
That Greg Vayna guy in the cigar video I linked to is listed as the owner. Does Matassa's son also own a share, or is he himself Matassa's son but uses a different last name for some reason, or what?
I think he sold it to the current guy. There has been two different owners of Taverna. The current bought it a couple of years ago

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Ivan » Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:14 am

NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:00 am Taverna on Division is owned by John Matassa's son.
That Greg Vayna guy in the cigar video I linked to is listed as the owner. Does Matassa's son also own a share, or is he himself Matassa's son but uses a different last name for some reason, or what?

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by NorthBuffalo » Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:00 am

Taverna on Division is owned by John Matassa's son.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Aunt+Baby » Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:54 pm

Ivan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:24 pm
Patrickgold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:03 pm I still see it but it will be taken down soon bc after 24 hours it is.
Wow, good eye. I can't get that to come up wherever it is. I'm probably just looking in the wrong places (not much of a Facebook guy).

Thanks for taking the time to screencap that.

I wonder if he goes to that "steak and cigars" thing they advertise on there, he's a big cigar guy: https://www.facebook.com/reel/1200215797711783
He used to hang out at one of the Bastone kids’ cigar shoppe in Forest Park, but I believe some heat between the two materialized. Not sure if the shoppe is still there

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Ivan » Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:24 pm

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:03 pm I still see it but it will be taken down soon bc after 24 hours it is.
Wow, good eye. I can't get that to come up wherever it is. I'm probably just looking in the wrong places (not much of a Facebook guy).

Thanks for taking the time to screencap that.

I wonder if he goes to that "steak and cigars" thing they advertise on there, he's a big cigar guy: https://www.facebook.com/reel/1200215797711783

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Patrickgold » Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:03 pm

Ivan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 27, 2025 4:25 pm
Patrickgold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 27, 2025 1:08 pm Haha this is funny but if you have Facebook go to the Taverna page and look at their current statuses. Paulie on the dance floor.
Did this get taken down? I can't find it but I might be missing it/overlooking it somehow.

You do mean this place, right?

https://www.facebook.com/tavernaondivision
I still see it but it will be taken down soon bc after 24 hours it is.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Ivan » Sun Apr 27, 2025 4:25 pm

Patrickgold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 27, 2025 1:08 pm Haha this is funny but if you have Facebook go to the Taverna page and look at their current statuses. Paulie on the dance floor.
Did this get taken down? I can't find it but I might be missing it/overlooking it somehow.

You do mean this place, right?

https://www.facebook.com/tavernaondivision

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Patrickgold » Sun Apr 27, 2025 1:08 pm

Haha this is funny but if you have Facebook go to the Taverna page and look at their current statuses. Paulie on the dance floor.

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