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by **peteyboxcars** » Mon Apr 28, 2025 10:43 am

Big Joe doesnt have much of a record just a few old gambling cases. If DHL didnt lay him off years ago he would still most likely be working for them playing poker and taking occasional bets.

by **Wiseguy** » Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:50 am

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:11 am
johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:36 am
Wiseguy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:39 am
Little_Al1991 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:01 am
Tumac was very greedy. He should have accepted that 50 percent would go the admin, Tumac had more than enough money. He was to content with only kicking up 10k per year under Tony Ducks who he was very cozy with
While the administration had a right to ask for more than $10,000 a year (Jersey should have known that would not last forever) requiring half the crew's earnings was what was greedy.
Agree 1000%. A softer touch was needed, the way they handled that whole situation really showed how unprepared they were for the top spot.

It's a reasonable request but an unreasonable figure.

Pogo

He's the boss now. He calls the tune and we all dance to it. It's the way it's always been done. You can either respect what's been done in the past or change the rules.

by **Pogo The Clown** » Sun Apr 27, 2025 10:11 am

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:36 am
Wiseguy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:39 am
Little_Al1991 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:01 am
Tumac was very greedy. He should have accepted that 50 percent would go the admin, Tumac had more than enough money. He was to content with only kicking up 10k per year under Tony Ducks who he was very cozy with
While the administration had a right to ask for more than $10,000 a year (Jersey should have known that would not last forever) requiring half the crew's earnings was what was greedy.
Agree 1000%. A softer touch was needed, the way they handled that whole situation really showed how unprepared they were for the top spot.

It's a reasonable request but an unreasonable figure.

Pogo

by **johnny_scootch** » Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:36 am

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:39 am
Little_Al1991 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:01 am
Tumac was very greedy. He should have accepted that 50 percent would go the admin, Tumac had more than enough money. He was to content with only kicking up 10k per year under Tony Ducks who he was very cozy with
While the administration had a right to ask for more than $10,000 a year (Jersey should have known that would not last forever) requiring half the crew's earnings was what was greedy.

Agree 1000%. A softer touch was needed, the way they handled that whole situation really showed how unprepared they were for the top spot.

by **SonnyBlackstein** » Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:28 am

Whack this one, whack that one. Fuck her! Let her taste her own medicine!

All good responses above. I think Johnny was spot on. After a couple of guys they'd stop. It was more clip who you can vs everyone.

by **Little_Al1991** » Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:14 am

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:39 am
Little_Al1991 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:01 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:13 pm
Adam wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:06 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:37 pm
NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:03 am Crazy Zappola was one of the point guys to take out the entire Lucchese Jersey Crew...now he's running it.
Was that really a thing. Cmon
Yeah I always thought that was more of a Volkman bullshit thing from Gangbusters.
Even if said, it couldnt have been a serious order.

Hit 20+ guys. Ok.

Yeah, no.
D’Arco confirmed this within his book. Vic wanted them dead because they were not “outlaws” in his eyes. After the order was given out, some of them came back to the family and they were accepted.

Tumac was very greedy. He should have accepted that 50 percent would go the admin, Tumac had more than enough money. He was to content with only kicking up 10k per year under Tony Ducks who he was very cozy with
While the administration had a right to ask for more than $10,000 a year (Jersey should have known that would not last forever) requiring half the crew's earnings was what was greedy.

It’s excessive, no doubt but they had the Lucchese flag in Jersey and operated with autonomy. All of this was possible because of the admin. Tumac should have accepted instead of instigating the situation.

Thomas Carew - “He had a case and after he beat the case, he wasn’t turning in money to the family and then he refused to come in when they wanted to see him. He kept making excuses and not coming in.” I’m not sure if the money that Carew was referring to was 50 percent at that time

by **AntComello** » Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:51 am

“Whack Jersey” is such a bad ass quote to me idk why it just really hits.

by **jmack** » Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:47 am

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:13 pm
Adam wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:06 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:37 pm
NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:03 am Crazy Zappola was one of the point guys to take out the entire Lucchese Jersey Crew...now he's running it.
Was that really a thing. Cmon
Yeah I always thought that was more of a Volkman bullshit thing from Gangbusters.
Even if said, it couldnt have been a serious order.

Hit 20+ guys. Ok.

Yeah, no.

IMO you are looking at it too literally. I think they gave the green light on all 20+ but assumed if they were successful in taking 3-4 of them out (maybe even one if it was Tumac) that the rest would fall in line. Remember, this is Vic and Gas we are talking about. They were whacking people everywhere.

by **Wiseguy** » Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:39 am

Little_Al1991 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:01 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:13 pm
Adam wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:06 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:37 pm
NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:03 am Crazy Zappola was one of the point guys to take out the entire Lucchese Jersey Crew...now he's running it.
Was that really a thing. Cmon
Yeah I always thought that was more of a Volkman bullshit thing from Gangbusters.
Even if said, it couldnt have been a serious order.

Hit 20+ guys. Ok.

Yeah, no.
D’Arco confirmed this within his book. Vic wanted them dead because they were not “outlaws” in his eyes. After the order was given out, some of them came back to the family and they were accepted.

Tumac was very greedy. He should have accepted that 50 percent would go the admin, Tumac had more than enough money. He was to content with only kicking up 10k per year under Tony Ducks who he was very cozy with

While the administration had a right to ask for more than $10,000 a year (Jersey should have known that would not last forever) requiring half the crew's earnings was what was greedy.

by **Little_Al1991** » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:01 am

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:13 pm
Adam wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:06 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:37 pm
NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:03 am Crazy Zappola was one of the point guys to take out the entire Lucchese Jersey Crew...now he's running it.
Was that really a thing. Cmon
Yeah I always thought that was more of a Volkman bullshit thing from Gangbusters.
Even if said, it couldnt have been a serious order.

Hit 20+ guys. Ok.

Yeah, no.

D’Arco confirmed this within his book. Vic wanted them dead because they were not “outlaws” in his eyes. After the order was given out, some of them came back to the family and they were accepted.

Tumac was very greedy. He should have accepted that 50 percent would go the admin, Tumac had more than enough money. He was to content with only kicking up 10k per year under Tony Ducks who he was very cozy with

by **Little_Al1991** » Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:51 am

AntComello wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 11:11 am
NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:03 am Crazy Zappola was one of the point guys to take out the entire Lucchese Jersey Crew...now he's running it.
That is pretty wild

Zappola’s entire career has been wild.

It’s worth noting that DeSantis was also part of the hit team that conspired to take out the Jersey crew

by **johnny_scootch** » Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:26 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:13 pm
Even if said, it couldnt have been a serious order.

Hit 20+ guys. Ok.

Yeah, no.

After a slew of problems with Accetturo, Amuso sent for the whole crew. When not a single guy showed up he said ‘whack jersey’ which was more of a standing order to whack any of them they could get their hands on than it was an order to kill each and everyone of them.

by **bronx** » Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:00 pm

Hello Sonny..hope you been well, TY for the welcome back .I do check in often..this is a great forum..! be well

by **SonnyBlackstein** » Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:13 pm

Adam wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:06 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:37 pm
NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:03 am Crazy Zappola was one of the point guys to take out the entire Lucchese Jersey Crew...now he's running it.
Was that really a thing. Cmon
Yeah I always thought that was more of a Volkman bullshit thing from Gangbusters.

Even if said, it couldnt have been a serious order.

Hit 20+ guys. Ok.

Yeah, no.

by **SonnyBlackstein** » Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:10 pm

bronx wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:03 pm he admitted the jersey faction of a crime family..hmm

bronx! How you been! Youre the most valued member here, dont be a stranger.

Hope you and yours are well mate.

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