by PolackTony » Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:49 pm
Kash wrote: ↑Fri Mar 28, 2025 7:37 pm
PolackTony wrote: ↑Thu Mar 27, 2025 8:19 pm
Ivan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 27, 2025 8:07 pm
PolackTony wrote: ↑Thu Mar 27, 2025 8:04 pm
Ivan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 27, 2025 8:01 pm
PolackTony wrote: ↑Thu Mar 27, 2025 7:46 pm
If any such altercation occurred, it was the least violent incident in all of Chicagoland that weekend lol.
Sadly even if it was almost no one cares about the bloodier incidents that no doubt occurred. That's not how this all works, as I'm sure you know.
If a dozen black and Latino kids get brutally slaughtered on one of the busier weekends, no one bats an eye, but if entertaining and charismatic middle-aged Italian mafia guys have a nonlethal fistfight, it's gonna draw some interest.
No one outside of their social circles and (keeping things in perspective) a *tiny* number of people online care about some Italian mobsters getting into a minor fight in a suburban Chicagoland restaurant though. Literally, no one cares but a few people like us. Something like this certainly isn’t making headlines in Chicago.
I don't think the random gangbangers getting killed every week have
any enthusiasts/hobbyists keeping tabs on their activities as individuals though. Or do they?
Not in exactly the way that we obsessively research primary source documents etc on long deceased mafiosi, etc., but there are all sorts of things online about Chicago gangs and the more recent intersections with drill rap music especially. I have met guys here in the Bronx (and not guys that have been to Chicago or have family there) who know all kinds of stuff about Chicago gangs and notorious neighborhoods etc., because they are obsessed with Chicago drill message boards etc. (e.g., r/Chiraqology on Reddit). They are the exact equivalent of guys like us who obsessively follow every little bit of news about mob guys, but there are almost certainly more of them out there.
I don’t think it’s even a question that *waaay* more people care about the murders of guys like FBG Duck and King Von than would ever know or care if someone whacked any Chicago LCN guy around today. Now those guys were more than just “random gangbangers”, but they are the more public facing and charismatic facet of the current day Chicago gang culture.
Don’t underestimate Chicago gang lore nationally. If you’re from the southeastern US and go to state prison, you’re inately in tune with Chicago street culture & that filters to the street & vice versa. The largest SCR stronghold is in MS (not northside Chicago)and their top “opps” are an all white sect of LK. Let that sink in. The 3 largest prison gangs in MS state prison are in this order: GD, SCR, & VL. Alabama is about the same.
Oh yeah, I’m aware of how big the Royals became down in MS, even as they’ve declined as much they have in Chicago. I also knew a bunch of black kids from MS growing up and due to the reverse “great migration” the hood culture in places like Memphis, Jackson, etc is an extension of Chicago.
Here in NYC there are of course Latin Kings (which will never not look like cartoon gangbangers to me — a guy who grew up getting shot at by the Kings from Beach and Spaulding, Whipple and Wabansia, and Leavitt and Schiller. Like some GTA NPC version of Kings lol). There are big GD sets in Brooklyn (I’ve met some, kind of a surreal experience to hear guys from Crown Point call each other “Folks”). Once I saw a bunch of Almighty BPSN graffiti on a bus shelter in Yonkers. Another time, I saw a bunch of MLD graffiti in Aguada, PR.
So yeah, Chicago gangs have long since been exported all over the place. The recent popularity of drill rap and online message board for its fans have, however, given Chicago gangs even more notoriety for people not directly involved themselves in the actual gang subcultures.
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If any such altercation occurred, it was the least violent incident in all of Chicagoland that weekend lol.
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Sadly even if it was almost no one cares about the bloodier incidents that no doubt occurred. That's not how this all works, as I'm sure you know.
If a dozen black and Latino kids get brutally slaughtered on one of the busier weekends, no one bats an eye, but if entertaining and charismatic middle-aged Italian mafia guys have a nonlethal fistfight, it's gonna draw some interest.
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No one outside of their social circles and (keeping things in perspective) a *tiny* number of people online care about some Italian mobsters getting into a minor fight in a suburban Chicagoland restaurant though. Literally, no one cares but a few people like us. Something like this certainly isn’t making headlines in Chicago.
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I don't think the random gangbangers getting killed every week have[i] any[/i] enthusiasts/hobbyists keeping tabs on their activities as individuals though. Or do they?
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Not in exactly the way that we obsessively research primary source documents etc on long deceased mafiosi, etc., but there are all sorts of things online about Chicago gangs and the more recent intersections with drill rap music especially. I have met guys here in the Bronx (and not guys that have been to Chicago or have family there) who know all kinds of stuff about Chicago gangs and notorious neighborhoods etc., because they are obsessed with Chicago drill message boards etc. (e.g., r/Chiraqology on Reddit). They are the exact equivalent of guys like us who obsessively follow every little bit of news about mob guys, but there are almost certainly more of them out there.
I don’t think it’s even a question that *waaay* more people care about the murders of guys like FBG Duck and King Von than would ever know or care if someone whacked any Chicago LCN guy around today. Now those guys were more than just “random gangbangers”, but they are the more public facing and charismatic facet of the current day Chicago gang culture.
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Don’t underestimate Chicago gang lore nationally. If you’re from the southeastern US and go to state prison, you’re inately in tune with Chicago street culture & that filters to the street & vice versa. The largest SCR stronghold is in MS (not northside Chicago)and their top “opps” are an all white sect of LK. Let that sink in. The 3 largest prison gangs in MS state prison are in this order: GD, SCR, & VL. Alabama is about the same.
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Oh yeah, I’m aware of how big the Royals became down in MS, even as they’ve declined as much they have in Chicago. I also knew a bunch of black kids from MS growing up and due to the reverse “great migration” the hood culture in places like Memphis, Jackson, etc is an extension of Chicago.
Here in NYC there are of course Latin Kings (which will never not look like cartoon gangbangers to me — a guy who grew up getting shot at by the Kings from Beach and Spaulding, Whipple and Wabansia, and Leavitt and Schiller. Like some GTA NPC version of Kings lol). There are big GD sets in Brooklyn (I’ve met some, kind of a surreal experience to hear guys from Crown Point call each other “Folks”). Once I saw a bunch of Almighty BPSN graffiti on a bus shelter in Yonkers. Another time, I saw a bunch of MLD graffiti in Aguada, PR.
So yeah, Chicago gangs have long since been exported all over the place. The recent popularity of drill rap and online message board for its fans have, however, given Chicago gangs even more notoriety for people not directly involved themselves in the actual gang subcultures.