by SonnyBlackstein » Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:50 pm
Cheech wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:23 am
i have 0 facts to back this up lol
My belief is this is the best time to be a wiseguy. as the traditional ways of making money have dissipated (extortion, numbers) new ones have popped up (crypto pump & dump, pay day loans). there are no murders and fbi i trailing you every day. least amount of active members (the ones in the chart section arent all active i.e. vinny butch corraro) and most of the jury pool thinks youre an ok guy. the mob has turned into a semi legit organization that only is on the fringes of illegality instead of being draped in it. its more of a breakfast group of guys giving each other referrals from construction to restaurants (gigi and toddaro)
My only pushback would be prison time is way different.
1950's you'd have a large italian/white pop so you'd be safe. Today, 70% black. Have fun with that.
My only also pushback
would also be you're talking about two different people. 1950's wiseguy couldn't tell you jack about wall street, couldn't name a stock to save their lives. Today's crypto (Crypo-Nostra!) Pump, etc are not tough, nor street and couldn't even bullshit play a wiseguy.
My also also also construction, port, airports have more oversight committees than ever, fbi has more techniques than ever, wiseguys aren't respected (think ms13 fears or respects wiseguys today? 50 years ago Italians fought blacks on the streets, when does that happen now)
So no respect, no joy in prison, no ports, committees everywhere, surveillance up the yang, no tough guys, and you can gamble on line.
Once loansharking is legal (see credit card interest rates) its over. I mean it's over, but then it's really really over.
I just like to argue
[quote=Cheech post_id=292719 time=1745501029 user_id=71]
i have 0 facts to back this up lol
My belief is this is the best time to be a wiseguy. as the traditional ways of making money have dissipated (extortion, numbers) new ones have popped up (crypto pump & dump, pay day loans). there are no murders and fbi i trailing you every day. least amount of active members (the ones in the chart section arent all active i.e. vinny butch corraro) and most of the jury pool thinks youre an ok guy. the mob has turned into a semi legit organization that only is on the fringes of illegality instead of being draped in it. its more of a breakfast group of guys giving each other referrals from construction to restaurants (gigi and toddaro)
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My only pushback would be prison time is way different.
1950's you'd have a large italian/white pop so you'd be safe. Today, 70% black. Have fun with that.
My only also pushback ;) would also be you're talking about two different people. 1950's wiseguy couldn't tell you jack about wall street, couldn't name a stock to save their lives. Today's crypto (Crypo-Nostra!) Pump, etc are not tough, nor street and couldn't even bullshit play a wiseguy.
My also also also construction, port, airports have more oversight committees than ever, fbi has more techniques than ever, wiseguys aren't respected (think ms13 fears or respects wiseguys today? 50 years ago Italians fought blacks on the streets, when does that happen now)
So no respect, no joy in prison, no ports, committees everywhere, surveillance up the yang, no tough guys, and you can gamble on line.
Once loansharking is legal (see credit card interest rates) its over. I mean it's over, but then it's really really over.
I just like to argue ;)