by Proletarian187 » Wed Jan 15, 2025 8:13 pm
JoePuzzles234 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:25 pm
Proletarian187 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 2:45 pm
I doubt that scenario would be seen as legit. Unless Tony Z had some deal with Tocco but I can't see that. What would an "informal" membership even look like? Being called a "friend of mine" forever?
Looking forward to hear him tell the story of refusing membership to Jack Toccos face. Sounds a little... too good to be true?
Yeah, it's a complex subject with the information we have now. I don't really doubt him turning down it personally, he really does not seem to have liked Jack W. and he came from a family with historical members too.
Not really much to discuss about the 40 minute interview (filmed at a different point than the linked one) as its centered around Hoffa but here is some stuff I found interesting:
• Tocco agrees that if Anthony Zerilli & Michael Polizzi were on the street, the Hoffa murder would not have happened
• Tocco says that as Joseph Zerilli became less active, the Detroit family lost its standing nationally
• Sylvia Pagano was a St. Louis LCN figure’s daughter
• Chuckie O’Brien was close with Anthony Giacalone’s “oldest son” – I believe the oldest is LCN member Joseph but Tocco instead identifies this person as Jack William Giacalone
• Tocco first met O’Brien with LCN member Anthony Dominic Giacalone in Florida
• Just prior to Hoffa’s disappearance, Tocco recalls hearing rumours that he was an FBI informant
• Scott briefly spoke to Detroit member Anthony Palazzolo shortly before his death
• Tocco says he couldn’t speculate around Palazzolo’s role as the apparent Hoffa shooter but states that he was a serious man
• Tocco knew Calogero (Carlo) Licata very well and describes him as a jovial person
• He doesn’t believe Licata committed suicide and when first told about his death, thought that “shit was about to hit the fan”
• Tocco thought Licata to be smarter than Anthony Joseph Tocco despite being “subservient” to him and Jack William Tocco (his in-laws)
• Whether or not Nicolo Licata was alive, Tocco thinks that Carlo dies in 1981 regardless
• Tocco was told that there wasn’t a Hoffa body by someone involved in the murder
• A Detroit member and onetime acting captain for Vito Giacalone told Scott that if the Hoffa murder could be redone, he would’ve just been shot in the street
- I imagine this is Frank Bommarito?
• Tocco and Anthony Zerilli “made peace” prior to his death
• Tocco would never have sworn loyalty to Jack William Tocco
Thanks a lot. I appreciate it. Some interesting stuff about Licata and Palazzolo for sure. I guess they gotta get Hoffa out of the way but I'm pretty tired of it. Mainly because I believe we know pretty much what happened.
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I doubt that scenario would be seen as legit. Unless Tony Z had some deal with Tocco but I can't see that. What would an "informal" membership even look like? Being called a "friend of mine" forever?😁
Looking forward to hear him tell the story of refusing membership to Jack Toccos face. Sounds a little... too good to be true?
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Yeah, it's a complex subject with the information we have now. I don't really doubt him turning down it personally, he really does not seem to have liked Jack W. and he came from a family with historical members too.
Not really much to discuss about the 40 minute interview (filmed at a different point than the linked one) as its centered around Hoffa but here is some stuff I found interesting:
[quote]• Tocco agrees that if Anthony Zerilli & Michael Polizzi were on the street, the Hoffa murder would not have happened
• Tocco says that as Joseph Zerilli became less active, the Detroit family lost its standing nationally
• Sylvia Pagano was a St. Louis LCN figure’s daughter
• Chuckie O’Brien was close with Anthony Giacalone’s “oldest son” – I believe the oldest is LCN member Joseph but Tocco instead identifies this person as Jack William Giacalone
• Tocco first met O’Brien with LCN member Anthony Dominic Giacalone in Florida
• Just prior to Hoffa’s disappearance, Tocco recalls hearing rumours that he was an FBI informant
• Scott briefly spoke to Detroit member Anthony Palazzolo shortly before his death
• Tocco says he couldn’t speculate around Palazzolo’s role as the apparent Hoffa shooter but states that he was a serious man
• Tocco knew Calogero (Carlo) Licata very well and describes him as a jovial person
• He doesn’t believe Licata committed suicide and when first told about his death, thought that “shit was about to hit the fan”
• Tocco thought Licata to be smarter than Anthony Joseph Tocco despite being “subservient” to him and Jack William Tocco (his in-laws)
• Whether or not Nicolo Licata was alive, Tocco thinks that Carlo dies in 1981 regardless
• Tocco was told that there wasn’t a Hoffa body by someone involved in the murder
• A Detroit member and onetime acting captain for Vito Giacalone told Scott that if the Hoffa murder could be redone, he would’ve just been shot in the street
- I imagine this is Frank Bommarito?
• Tocco and Anthony Zerilli “made peace” prior to his death
• Tocco would never have sworn loyalty to Jack William Tocco
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Thanks a lot. I appreciate it. Some interesting stuff about Licata and Palazzolo for sure. I guess they gotta get Hoffa out of the way but I'm pretty tired of it. Mainly because I believe we know pretty much what happened.