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Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by cavita » Mon Nov 18, 2024 8:45 pm

PolackTony wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:28 pm
cavita wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:19 pm
PolackTony wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:15 pm
Snakes wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:22 pm
cavita wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:59 pm It says The Clown was mistaken for Joe Lombardi in the article. Was this Joe "Pretty Boy" Lombardi? What was the story on him....anyone have any specific info?
Juice guy. Did two separate stretches in prison, both for juice, once in the 70s and again in the 90s. It doesn't appear he was ever made. He died in 2013.
Yes, so far as I know he remained an associate with the EP crew. Joseph Lombardi, Jr, was born in 1936 in Chicago and he was a paesan' of Willie Messino. His parents were Giuseppe Lombardi of Acerra and Rosa Renello, born in Chicago to Acerresi parents. Joe Lombard, also like Messino, grew up in the Taylor St neighborhood and it's safe to assume that their families all knew each other.

In December of 1963, Gagliano crew juice loan client Joe Weisphal ran to the cops after he was beaten and terrorized into signing over checks to pay off part of his delinquent juice loan that he owed to Willie Messino's loansharking operation. Messino, Al Sarno, Chris Cardi (another Acerrese and Messino's relative, of course), Patsy Di Costanzo, and Johnny DeFronzo were charged with extortion and assault in the case. Notably, Joe *Lombardo* (who was, of course, Barese and totally unrelated to the other guy, though "The Clown's" actual surname was also Lombardi, originally) was also picked up and charged when investigators confused him for the other Joe (in court, Weisphal failed to recognize Lombardo as the Joe Lombardi that he had accused of taking part in his terrorizing). All of these men wound up getting acquitted on all charges, though the case caused something of an uproar in the local press as LE discovered multiple attempts to bribe jurors in the case.

This case brought a lot of heat down on the Cerone/Gagliano crew and on the juice racket in Chicago more broadly, which became much harder to operate in the 1960s/70s due to increasing pressure from Federal and local LE. Another black eye for Messino came a few years later in 1965, when he and associates Joe Lombardi, Jr, George Bravos, and Sandor Caravallo were charged with crimes including kidnapping and aggravated assault for the confinement and brutal beating of three Greek brothers, businessmen in the NW burbs who were in default on their juice loans to Messino's operation. Messino was famously apprehended after initially escaping authorities during a wild shootout with IL state LE agents under the command of IL Crime Commission head Charles Siragusa. In 1967, Messino, Lombardi, and Bravos were convicted and given stiff sentences, which were upheld on appeal in 1967. I'm not sure when Lombardi was released from this case, as he was given 5-to-20 years and his parole was denied in 1975.

Apart from working as a juice collector for his paesan' Messino (I think it's safe to assume that for most of his mob career, at least, Lombardi would have been an associate on record with Messino), he was also involved in burglary and armed robbery per FBI intel, and was also named as being involved in the bolita (PR numbers) racket in the 1970s (although, it's possible that Lombardi was again conflated with Joe Lombardo for the latter allegations, as he was incarcerated at the time).

He was living in SW suburban Bridgeview when he died in 2013. Interestingly, he -- or his relatives -- seem to have retained some kind of clout even in his later years, in that a 2021 Sun-Times article discussed how the mobbed Cook County Assessor's office under Joe Berrios had continued to grant tax breaks on the property for several years after Lombardi had passed.
So was this Lombardi ever involved in the porn industry for the Outfit in the 1970s as far as you know?
Not that I recall ATM. He was incarcerated into 1976, at the earliest, also. If you post some of the info about the guy you're thinking of, maybe we can see if it's the same person.
Snakes wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:20 pm Yeah, that article is the only evidence I have he died. I never found an obit or SSDI
Same.
Rockford police provided this history of adult bookstore ownership in Rockford which was connected to the Rockford LCN: Jacob “Bucky” Seibert owned the porno stores from the mid-1960s until 1969 when R.J. Sales Co., Inc. took over. That company was owned by Claude “Junior” Ridens and Joseph Lombardi. Ridens and Lombardi added a partner and other corporate names while they owned the stores here, and the firms opened a Rockford warehouse which was raided by the police in December 1973. In 1973 all of the Ridens and Lombardi corporations were dissolved and the operations were taken over by International Amusements Limited, Inc., a Canadian corporation which Steve Baker was listed as the president. International Amusements was listed as being operated out of Cedar Rapids, Iowa but Baker was down as being from Ontario, Canada. Baker was also listed as the general manager of Cinematic-Vending Corp., which handled distribution and sales of films and projectors. Reuben Sterman, who was born in Canada, was associated with Cinematic. Eagle Books, Inc. took over operations in Rockford in 1975. Listed as president, secretary, treasurer and director of Eagle Books was James Forester, who listed his address as 322 E. State Street, the same address as the Adult Book and Cinema. Rockford police had said they traced Forester to a southern Indiana adult bookstore where he was only a clerk. Forester had apparently told Rockford police he was paid for the use of his name on the corporation records.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by PolackTony » Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:28 pm

cavita wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:19 pm
PolackTony wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:15 pm
Snakes wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:22 pm
cavita wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:59 pm It says The Clown was mistaken for Joe Lombardi in the article. Was this Joe "Pretty Boy" Lombardi? What was the story on him....anyone have any specific info?
Juice guy. Did two separate stretches in prison, both for juice, once in the 70s and again in the 90s. It doesn't appear he was ever made. He died in 2013.
Yes, so far as I know he remained an associate with the EP crew. Joseph Lombardi, Jr, was born in 1936 in Chicago and he was a paesan' of Willie Messino. His parents were Giuseppe Lombardi of Acerra and Rosa Renello, born in Chicago to Acerresi parents. Joe Lombard, also like Messino, grew up in the Taylor St neighborhood and it's safe to assume that their families all knew each other.

In December of 1963, Gagliano crew juice loan client Joe Weisphal ran to the cops after he was beaten and terrorized into signing over checks to pay off part of his delinquent juice loan that he owed to Willie Messino's loansharking operation. Messino, Al Sarno, Chris Cardi (another Acerrese and Messino's relative, of course), Patsy Di Costanzo, and Johnny DeFronzo were charged with extortion and assault in the case. Notably, Joe *Lombardo* (who was, of course, Barese and totally unrelated to the other guy, though "The Clown's" actual surname was also Lombardi, originally) was also picked up and charged when investigators confused him for the other Joe (in court, Weisphal failed to recognize Lombardo as the Joe Lombardi that he had accused of taking part in his terrorizing). All of these men wound up getting acquitted on all charges, though the case caused something of an uproar in the local press as LE discovered multiple attempts to bribe jurors in the case.

This case brought a lot of heat down on the Cerone/Gagliano crew and on the juice racket in Chicago more broadly, which became much harder to operate in the 1960s/70s due to increasing pressure from Federal and local LE. Another black eye for Messino came a few years later in 1965, when he and associates Joe Lombardi, Jr, George Bravos, and Sandor Caravallo were charged with crimes including kidnapping and aggravated assault for the confinement and brutal beating of three Greek brothers, businessmen in the NW burbs who were in default on their juice loans to Messino's operation. Messino was famously apprehended after initially escaping authorities during a wild shootout with IL state LE agents under the command of IL Crime Commission head Charles Siragusa. In 1967, Messino, Lombardi, and Bravos were convicted and given stiff sentences, which were upheld on appeal in 1967. I'm not sure when Lombardi was released from this case, as he was given 5-to-20 years and his parole was denied in 1975.

Apart from working as a juice collector for his paesan' Messino (I think it's safe to assume that for most of his mob career, at least, Lombardi would have been an associate on record with Messino), he was also involved in burglary and armed robbery per FBI intel, and was also named as being involved in the bolita (PR numbers) racket in the 1970s (although, it's possible that Lombardi was again conflated with Joe Lombardo for the latter allegations, as he was incarcerated at the time).

He was living in SW suburban Bridgeview when he died in 2013. Interestingly, he -- or his relatives -- seem to have retained some kind of clout even in his later years, in that a 2021 Sun-Times article discussed how the mobbed Cook County Assessor's office under Joe Berrios had continued to grant tax breaks on the property for several years after Lombardi had passed.
So was this Lombardi ever involved in the porn industry for the Outfit in the 1970s as far as you know?
Not that I recall ATM. He was incarcerated into 1976, at the earliest, also. If you post some of the info about the guy you're thinking of, maybe we can see if it's the same person.
Snakes wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:20 pm Yeah, that article is the only evidence I have he died. I never found an obit or SSDI
Same.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by NorthBuffalo » Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:24 pm

cavita wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:02 pm
NorthBuffalo wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:40 pm Santino Collela is in one of the photos I have (below). He and his wife own a pizza restaurant that is very popular (Nick and Bruno's) in Franklin Park. Fond of scratch off tickets I see from reading up on him :lol:

Image
My buddy once told me Santino said he worked for Pete LaBelestra and that back in the 1980s he partnered with Frank Buscemi, Jr. on some things. Frank, Jr. was the son of the Rockford LCN underboss. That partnering I suspect was cocaine dealings because Frank Jr. was deep into that for his old man.
This latest indictment we were posting about - Anthony LaBalestra - is out of Cary, IL - they were also living in Barrington from what I was told. Somewhat close to Rockford, no?

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by NorthBuffalo » Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:22 pm

Lombardi was the uncle of 'The Don' on ANP aka Don Bellezzo who is the founder of a Beatles cover band in Las Vegas. Lombardi and Fosco were connected to each other behind the scenes. I think Lombardi was de-activated by DiFronzo if you read those boards in-depth and quite bitter about it. He allegedly began as a gopher for Matassa Sr. who was a bodyguard for Giancana hence the elaborate stories he told his annoying nephew about Giancana being this amazing 'super boss.'

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Snakes » Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:20 pm

PolackTony wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:15 pm
Snakes wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:22 pm
cavita wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:59 pm It says The Clown was mistaken for Joe Lombardi in the article. Was this Joe "Pretty Boy" Lombardi? What was the story on him....anyone have any specific info?
Juice guy. Did two separate stretches in prison, both for juice, once in the 70s and again in the 90s. It doesn't appear he was ever made. He died in 2013.
Yes, so far as I know he remained an associate with the EP crew. Joseph Lombardi, Jr, was born in 1936 in Chicago and he was a paesan' of Willie Messino. His parents were Giuseppe Lombardi of Acerra and Rosa Renello, born in Chicago to Acerresi parents. Joe Lombard, also like Messino, grew up in the Taylor St neighborhood and it's safe to assume that their families all knew each other.

In December of 1963, Gagliano crew juice loan client Joe Weisphal ran to the cops after he was beaten and terrorized into signing over checks to pay off part of his delinquent juice loan that he owed to Willie Messino's loansharking operation. Messino, Al Sarno, Chris Cardi (another Acerrese and Messino's relative, of course), Patsy Di Costanzo, and Johnny DeFronzo were charged with extortion and assault in the case. Notably, Joe *Lombardo* (who was, of course, Barese and totally unrelated to the other guy, though "The Clown's" actual surname was also Lombardi, originally) was also picked up and charged when investigators confused him for the other Joe (in court, Weisphal failed to recognize Lombardo as the Joe Lombardi that he had accused of taking part in his terrorizing). All of these men wound up getting acquitted on all charges, though the case caused something of an uproar in the local press as LE discovered multiple attempts to bribe jurors in the case.

This case brought a lot of heat down on the Cerone/Gagliano crew and on the juice racket in Chicago more broadly, which became much harder to operate in the 1960s/70s due to increasing pressure from Federal and local LE. Another black eye for Messino came a few years later in 1965, when he and associates Joe Lombardi, Jr, George Bravos, and Sandor Caravallo were charged with crimes including kidnapping and aggravated assault for the confinement and brutal beating of three Greek brothers, businessmen in the NW burbs who were in default on their juice loans to Messino's operation. Messino was famously apprehended after initially escaping authorities during a wild shootout with IL state LE agents under the command of IL Crime Commission head Charles Siragusa. In 1967, Messino, Lombardi, and Bravos were convicted and given stiff sentences, which were upheld on appeal in 1967. I'm not sure when Lombardi was released from this case, as he was given 5-to-20 years and his parole was denied in 1975.

Apart from working as a juice collector for his paesan' Messino (I think it's safe to assume that for most of his mob career, at least, Lombardi would have been an associate on record with Messino), he was also involved in burglary and armed robbery per FBI intel, and was further named as being involved in the bolita (PR numbers) racket by a local LE report in the 1970s (although, it's possible that Lombardi was again conflated with Joe Lombardo for the latter allegations, as he was incarcerated at the time).

He was living in SW suburban Bridgeview when he died in 2013. Interestingly, he -- or his relatives -- seem to have retained some kind of clout even in his later years, in that a 2021 Sun-Times article discussed how the mobbed-up Cook County Assessor's office under Joe Berrios had continued to grant tax breaks on the property for several years after Lombardi had passed.
Yeah, that article is the only evidence I have he died. I never found an obit or SSDI

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by cavita » Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:19 pm

PolackTony wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:15 pm
Snakes wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:22 pm
cavita wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:59 pm It says The Clown was mistaken for Joe Lombardi in the article. Was this Joe "Pretty Boy" Lombardi? What was the story on him....anyone have any specific info?
Juice guy. Did two separate stretches in prison, both for juice, once in the 70s and again in the 90s. It doesn't appear he was ever made. He died in 2013.
Yes, so far as I know he remained an associate with the EP crew. Joseph Lombardi, Jr, was born in 1936 in Chicago and he was a paesan' of Willie Messino. His parents were Giuseppe Lombardi of Acerra and Rosa Renello, born in Chicago to Acerresi parents. Joe Lombard, also like Messino, grew up in the Taylor St neighborhood and it's safe to assume that their families all knew each other.

In December of 1963, Gagliano crew juice loan client Joe Weisphal ran to the cops after he was beaten and terrorized into signing over checks to pay off part of his delinquent juice loan that he owed to Willie Messino's loansharking operation. Messino, Al Sarno, Chris Cardi (another Acerrese and Messino's relative, of course), Patsy Di Costanzo, and Johnny DeFronzo were charged with extortion and assault in the case. Notably, Joe *Lombardo* (who was, of course, Barese and totally unrelated to the other guy, though "The Clown's" actual surname was also Lombardi, originally) was also picked up and charged when investigators confused him for the other Joe (in court, Weisphal failed to recognize Lombardo as the Joe Lombardi that he had accused of taking part in his terrorizing). All of these men wound up getting acquitted on all charges, though the case caused something of an uproar in the local press as LE discovered multiple attempts to bribe jurors in the case.

This case brought a lot of heat down on the Cerone/Gagliano crew and on the juice racket in Chicago more broadly, which became much harder to operate in the 1960s/70s due to increasing pressure from Federal and local LE. Another black eye for Messino came a few years later in 1965, when he and associates Joe Lombardi, Jr, George Bravos, and Sandor Caravallo were charged with crimes including kidnapping and aggravated assault for the confinement and brutal beating of three Greek brothers, businessmen in the NW burbs who were in default on their juice loans to Messino's operation. Messino was famously apprehended after initially escaping authorities during a wild shootout with IL state LE agents under the command of IL Crime Commission head Charles Siragusa. In 1967, Messino, Lombardi, and Bravos were convicted and given stiff sentences, which were upheld on appeal in 1967. I'm not sure when Lombardi was released from this case, as he was given 5-to-20 years and his parole was denied in 1975.

Apart from working as a juice collector for his paesan' Messino (I think it's safe to assume that for most of his mob career, at least, Lombardi would have been an associate on record with Messino), he was also involved in burglary and armed robbery per FBI intel, and was also named as being involved in the bolita (PR numbers) racket in the 1970s (although, it's possible that Lombardi was again conflated with Joe Lombardo for the latter allegations, as he was incarcerated at the time).

He was living in SW suburban Bridgeview when he died in 2013. Interestingly, he -- or his relatives -- seem to have retained some kind of clout even in his later years, in that a 2021 Sun-Times article discussed how the mobbed Cook County Assessor's office under Joe Berrios had continued to grant tax breaks on the property for several years after Lombardi had passed.
So was this Lombardi ever involved in the porn industry for the Outfit in the 1970s as far as you know?

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by PolackTony » Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:15 pm

Snakes wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:22 pm
cavita wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:59 pm It says The Clown was mistaken for Joe Lombardi in the article. Was this Joe "Pretty Boy" Lombardi? What was the story on him....anyone have any specific info?
Juice guy. Did two separate stretches in prison, both for juice, once in the 70s and again in the 90s. It doesn't appear he was ever made. He died in 2013.
Yes, so far as I know he remained an associate with the EP crew. Joseph Lombardi, Jr, was born in 1936 in Chicago and he was a paesan' of Willie Messino. His parents were Giuseppe Lombardi of Acerra and Rosa Renello, born in Chicago to Acerresi parents. Joe Lombard, also like Messino, grew up in the Taylor St neighborhood and it's safe to assume that their families all knew each other.

In December of 1963, Gagliano crew juice loan client Joe Weisphal ran to the cops after he was beaten and terrorized into signing over checks to pay off part of his delinquent juice loan that he owed to Willie Messino's loansharking operation. Messino, Al Sarno, Chris Cardi (another Acerrese and Messino's relative, of course), Patsy Di Costanzo, and Johnny DeFronzo were charged with extortion and assault in the case. Notably, Joe *Lombardo* (who was, of course, Barese and totally unrelated to the other guy, though "The Clown's" actual surname was also Lombardi, originally) was also picked up and charged when investigators confused him for the other Joe (in court, Weisphal failed to recognize Lombardo as the Joe Lombardi that he had accused of taking part in his terrorizing). All of these men wound up getting acquitted on all charges, though the case caused something of an uproar in the local press as LE discovered multiple attempts to bribe jurors in the case.

This case brought a lot of heat down on the Cerone/Gagliano crew and on the juice racket in Chicago more broadly, which became much harder to operate in the 1960s/70s due to increasing pressure from Federal and local LE. Another black eye for Messino came a few years later in 1965, when he and associates Joe Lombardi, Jr, George Bravos, and Sandor Caravallo were charged with crimes including kidnapping and aggravated assault for the confinement and brutal beating of three Greek brothers, businessmen in the NW burbs who were in default on their juice loans to Messino's operation. Messino was famously apprehended after initially escaping authorities during a wild shootout with IL state LE agents under the command of IL Crime Commission head Charles Siragusa. In 1967, Messino, Lombardi, and Bravos were convicted and given stiff sentences, which were upheld on appeal in 1967. I'm not sure when Lombardi was released from this case, as he was given 5-to-20 years and his parole was denied in 1975.

Apart from working as a juice collector for his paesan' Messino (I think it's safe to assume that for most of his mob career, at least, Lombardi would have been an associate on record with Messino), he was also involved in burglary and armed robbery per FBI intel, and was further named as being involved in the bolita (PR numbers) racket by a local LE report in the 1970s (although, it's possible that Lombardi was again conflated with Joe Lombardo for the latter allegations, as he was incarcerated at the time).

He was living in SW suburban Bridgeview when he died in 2013. Interestingly, he -- or his relatives -- seem to have retained some kind of clout even in his later years, in that a 2021 Sun-Times article discussed how the mobbed-up Cook County Assessor's office under Joe Berrios had continued to grant tax breaks on the property for several years after Lombardi had passed.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Snakes » Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:22 pm

cavita wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:59 pm
Ivan wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:55 am https://chicago.suntimes.com/fbi-files/ ... -fbi-files

Joey 'The Clown' Lombardo's FBI files show Chicago Outfit boss complaining about government inspectors

Despite his penchant for humor, the late hoodlum comes across as rather grumpy as authorities kept showing up at his workplace, the newly released records show.

By Robert Herguth Nov 15, 2024, 5:00pm UTC

Known for a wicked sense of humor as well as a penchant for violence, the late Chicago Outfit boss Joseph Lombardo was known as “Joey the Clown.”

But newly released FBI files on the hoodlum, who died in 2019, showed he also could be, well, kind of prickly.
The once-secret paperwork — FBI files generally can be released, on demand, only after a person’s death and, even then, often only with large swaths blacked out — shows Lombardo complaining about government inspectors descending on a suburban company he was employed by in 1971.

“He noted that he was in dirty work clothes and industrially employed in the production of fiberglass sinks at the time he was contacted,” according to one document. “Lombardo stated that the fiberglass business is good and that they were working very hard to meet their production schedules.

“Lombardo stated that the Village of Elk Grove is harassing him by having frequent inspections conducted by the Fire Department and very closely watching this fiberglass operation for fire violations.

“He stated he does not really mind this as he expects to abide by the law and if on any occasion he feels that he is being discriminated against, he will make an issue of it in the courts.

“Joseph Lombardo stated that people like himself have more problems with the law enforcement authorities than the general public and as a case in point he explained the circumstances of his arrest when he was mistaken for Joe Lombardi and actually taken to court by the Chicago Police Department, where he was not identified by the victim.

“He stated that at the time of this arrest he was pushed around by the Chicago police, who would not listen to him when he stated that he was the wrong man.

“Lombardo advised that he as a matter of practice is polite to policemen until he is placed under arrest, at which time he refuses to discuss anything with them and generally replies to their queries with obscenities.”

Months later, investigators visited Lombardo again at his work place, and he “noted that they had recently cleared up the premises due to a complaint of the Elk Grove Fire Department.

“Lombardo would disclose only general subjects, however was very emphatic in his opinion that the Italian American people are discriminated against in that they are classified as hoodlums.”

He pointed to being a member of the YMCA but being “dropped” from its “Executive Club,” his dues returned without explanation, except that “his membership was not desirable.”

Upset, Lombardo said that “he talked to an attorney concerning this and was advised that inasmuch as it was a private club in the YMCA, he had no recourse.

“Lombardo stated he was bitter.”

The records also briefly mention one of Lombardo’s former business associates — Daniel Seifert, who was gunned down in 1974 outside his Bensenville factory to stop him from testifying against Lombardo in a pension fraud case.

The Seifert killing was one of 10 killings that Lombardo and other mob bosses were found liable for when they were convicted in 2007 in the landmark Operation Family Secrets mob trial.

Just before charges were announced in 2005, Lombardo fled. He was tracked down in early 2006 in Elmwood Park and put on trial.

The 124 pages that were released by the FBI all appear to be regarding Lombardo’s earlier years, when he was rising in the Outfit and not yet one of the top bosses.

One document in Lombardo’s FBI file shows that, when a car he was traveling in was pulled over in the early 1970s, one of his associates tried to bribe a Niles cop and an “altercation” ensued.

“Information was later received . . . that as a result of an alleged $1,000 payoff to the Niles Police, all charges against [REDACTED] were dismissed and all reports relative to the arrest and assault were destroyed,” FBI records say.

According to another document, an informant told authorities Lombardo and fellow mobster Anthony Spilotro “pulled” a 1966 Tiffany robbery that saw hundreds of thousands of dollars in jewelry taken from a Michigan Avenue store.

The records also show Lombardo had a host of other nicknames and aliases besides “The Clown,” including Joe Padula, Little Joey, William Baker, Milton Snyder, Harold McBride, Frederick Bomberd, George S. Carroll and Henry Jones.

The files show the lengths to which investigators went to track down Lombardo decades ago, even contacting his mother, then living in Park Ridge. She “refused to disclose his residence, activities or associates.”
It says The Clown was mistaken for Joe Lombardi in the article. Was this Joe "Pretty Boy" Lombardi? What was the story on him....anyone have any specific info?
Juice guy. Did two separate stretches in prison, both for juice, once in the 70s and again in the 90s. It doesn't appear he was ever made. He died in 2013.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by cavita » Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:02 pm

NorthBuffalo wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:40 pm Santino Collela is in one of the photos I have (below). He and his wife own a pizza restaurant that is very popular (Nick and Bruno's) in Franklin Park. Fond of scratch off tickets I see from reading up on him :lol:

Image
My buddy once told me Santino said he worked for Pete LaBelestra and that back in the 1980s he partnered with Frank Buscemi, Jr. on some things. Frank, Jr. was the son of the Rockford LCN underboss. That partnering I suspect was cocaine dealings because Frank Jr. was deep into that for his old man.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by cavita » Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:59 pm

Ivan wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 10:55 am https://chicago.suntimes.com/fbi-files/ ... -fbi-files

Joey 'The Clown' Lombardo's FBI files show Chicago Outfit boss complaining about government inspectors

Despite his penchant for humor, the late hoodlum comes across as rather grumpy as authorities kept showing up at his workplace, the newly released records show.

By Robert Herguth Nov 15, 2024, 5:00pm UTC

Known for a wicked sense of humor as well as a penchant for violence, the late Chicago Outfit boss Joseph Lombardo was known as “Joey the Clown.”

But newly released FBI files on the hoodlum, who died in 2019, showed he also could be, well, kind of prickly.
The once-secret paperwork — FBI files generally can be released, on demand, only after a person’s death and, even then, often only with large swaths blacked out — shows Lombardo complaining about government inspectors descending on a suburban company he was employed by in 1971.

“He noted that he was in dirty work clothes and industrially employed in the production of fiberglass sinks at the time he was contacted,” according to one document. “Lombardo stated that the fiberglass business is good and that they were working very hard to meet their production schedules.

“Lombardo stated that the Village of Elk Grove is harassing him by having frequent inspections conducted by the Fire Department and very closely watching this fiberglass operation for fire violations.

“He stated he does not really mind this as he expects to abide by the law and if on any occasion he feels that he is being discriminated against, he will make an issue of it in the courts.

“Joseph Lombardo stated that people like himself have more problems with the law enforcement authorities than the general public and as a case in point he explained the circumstances of his arrest when he was mistaken for Joe Lombardi and actually taken to court by the Chicago Police Department, where he was not identified by the victim.

“He stated that at the time of this arrest he was pushed around by the Chicago police, who would not listen to him when he stated that he was the wrong man.

“Lombardo advised that he as a matter of practice is polite to policemen until he is placed under arrest, at which time he refuses to discuss anything with them and generally replies to their queries with obscenities.”

Months later, investigators visited Lombardo again at his work place, and he “noted that they had recently cleared up the premises due to a complaint of the Elk Grove Fire Department.

“Lombardo would disclose only general subjects, however was very emphatic in his opinion that the Italian American people are discriminated against in that they are classified as hoodlums.”

He pointed to being a member of the YMCA but being “dropped” from its “Executive Club,” his dues returned without explanation, except that “his membership was not desirable.”

Upset, Lombardo said that “he talked to an attorney concerning this and was advised that inasmuch as it was a private club in the YMCA, he had no recourse.

“Lombardo stated he was bitter.”

The records also briefly mention one of Lombardo’s former business associates — Daniel Seifert, who was gunned down in 1974 outside his Bensenville factory to stop him from testifying against Lombardo in a pension fraud case.

The Seifert killing was one of 10 killings that Lombardo and other mob bosses were found liable for when they were convicted in 2007 in the landmark Operation Family Secrets mob trial.

Just before charges were announced in 2005, Lombardo fled. He was tracked down in early 2006 in Elmwood Park and put on trial.

The 124 pages that were released by the FBI all appear to be regarding Lombardo’s earlier years, when he was rising in the Outfit and not yet one of the top bosses.

One document in Lombardo’s FBI file shows that, when a car he was traveling in was pulled over in the early 1970s, one of his associates tried to bribe a Niles cop and an “altercation” ensued.

“Information was later received . . . that as a result of an alleged $1,000 payoff to the Niles Police, all charges against [REDACTED] were dismissed and all reports relative to the arrest and assault were destroyed,” FBI records say.

According to another document, an informant told authorities Lombardo and fellow mobster Anthony Spilotro “pulled” a 1966 Tiffany robbery that saw hundreds of thousands of dollars in jewelry taken from a Michigan Avenue store.

The records also show Lombardo had a host of other nicknames and aliases besides “The Clown,” including Joe Padula, Little Joey, William Baker, Milton Snyder, Harold McBride, Frederick Bomberd, George S. Carroll and Henry Jones.

The files show the lengths to which investigators went to track down Lombardo decades ago, even contacting his mother, then living in Park Ridge. She “refused to disclose his residence, activities or associates.”
It says The Clown was mistaken for Joe Lombardi in the article. Was this Joe "Pretty Boy" Lombardi? What was the story on him....anyone have any specific info?

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Coloboy » Mon Nov 18, 2024 3:26 pm

NorthBuffalo wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 8:09 am
Coloboy wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:39 pm Interesting. I have never heard of the Franco martinelli thing. I agree that there’s probably a lot of small day to day stuff that doesn’t make the news or get linked to the outfit.

And hell, if I was one of those older guys we talked about and had millions in real estate, businesses, and all that, I would keep my self distanced from the street shit too.

Not so sure about Solly D though. Remember Caparelli was recorded talking about Mickey Davis being “Solly D’s partner”, whatever that means. That was around 2015, but still pretty recent.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2010/09/ ... -invasion/

Article on Martinelli - that was clearly not a burglary and more of a debt scenario.

And I do think Solly probably has a few hundred thousand (potentially million) on the street that guys like Mickey Davis are using for juice - I think that is likely where it ends however. I also wonder how much of a return partnering in a juice operation in Chicago these days would net lol Davis was loaning out $200K at a time - this is big money still.
I think the days of small loans are done. People can use credit cards and payday loans for that stuff, and no one wants to risk going to jail for a $1,000 loan. But i bet there's still some pretty big money in larger loans that people use for business purchases and the like. A lot of people have shitty credit but still need financing. I would agree that a lot of the older guys like Solly D probably put out bigger loans filtered through multiple intermediaries that can never be traced back to them.

I would even venture to say that this could be a lot of what the outfit is today. Financing businesses, collecting interest and/or taking a piece of the business as a silent owner.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Coloboy » Mon Nov 18, 2024 3:14 pm

Is there anything out there tying him to the outfit?

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by NorthBuffalo » Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:40 pm

Santino Collela is in one of the photos I have (below). He and his wife own a pizza restaurant that is very popular (Nick and Bruno's) in Franklin Park. Fond of scratch off tickets I see from reading up on him :lol:

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Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by PolackTony » Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:11 pm

PolackTony wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:48 am
NorthBuffalo wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 6:02 pm
Coloboy wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 7:02 pm
NorthBuffalo wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:14 pm
Snakes wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 11:43 am
NorthBuffalo wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:14 am I've mentioned this to a few of you previously, but there is an 'Anthony Labalestra' who has a looming indictment in Northern District Illinois - I'm told that is the son of Pete Labalestra. Lots of speculation as to what it involves. Anthony has also been arrested several times for burglaries that seem more sophisticated than teenage/hooligan stuff. I'm not sure if anyone can access the actual indictment, but it would be interesting to see what's in there.

https://casetext.com/case/united-states-v-labalestra
He has already pled guilty to it. Possession of a firearm by a convicted felon and the sale or manufacture of firearms in exchange for money or narcotics. He sold 5 pistols and 1 "AR-Style rifle" to a couple of Colombians. He had previously been convicted of burglary and manufacture of ecstasy (two separate convictions). There was no indictment as he pled guilty and agreed to be prosecuted by "way of information." The most interesting part of the plea agreement is Labalestra's agreement to "fully and truthfully" cooperate when called upon by the Northern District of Illinois to provide testimony in any court proceeding. His sentencing (facing a maximum of 15 years) has been delayed until the completion of this cooperation. I had first thought he was going to cooperate against the Colombians he dealt with, but they have also pled guilty, so it must be concerning some other matter.
Wow thanks Snakes for finding this .Do you have any of the links handy where you got this? We've been looking into this for some time- you are gonna make me a hero to this goofball who sends me all these things. Can you also confirm this is indeed the son of Pietro Labalestra? I think Scott B's got his next Outfit article :lol:
Pietro LaBalestra does have a son, his only one so far as I know, named Anthony. In his early 40s. I’m pretty certain this is the same guy. He also had a burglary case back in 2007 when he was 17 for ripping off $20k in items from an electronics supply store with one of his buddies, which matches him having a prior burglary conviction. Clearly, the apple don’t fall far from the tree.
As a correction, Anthony is not Pietro's only kid (not aware that any of the others have been involved in any criminal activities). The rest of the above is correct, though.

I have discussed Pietro LaBalestra on some other threads previously, but worth noting again that the La Balestras are from Mola di Bari, which is also the hometown of Santino Colella and of the Calabrese brothers' father's family. Important hometown for both "first" and "second" wave immigrants to both Chicago and NYC (mainly Brooklyn), so it's unsurprising that these families in Chicago also have relatives in the NYC area.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by PolackTony » Mon Nov 18, 2024 2:01 pm

InCamelot wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 11:36 am
PolackTony wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:26 pm
Coloboy wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 7:06 pm Curious if any of you have read “The Insane Chicago Way” by John Haggedorn of University of Chicago?

Seems to be about Latin gangs in Chicago, working in concert with the outfit, attempting to model themselves after the mob. Lots of references to the C notes.

thinking of ordering it.
It’s an excellent book and I’ve been trying to get people here to read it for years lol.

To summarize. John Hagedorn is a veteran criminologist who has spent decades researching street gangs in Chicago and Milwaukee. Some time like around 2010, IIRC, an Italian kid took one of his courses at UIC on gangs and told Hagedorn that he knew some people who could tell him things. He wound up being put into contact with a guy who Hagedorn refers to by the pseudonym “Sal”. He describes Sal as a made guy with the Grand Ave crew, and Hagedorn conducts a series of in depth interviews with Sal over an extended period.

Sal tells Hagedorn that after Joey Lombardo, who he calls “the old man”, was released from prison in the early 90s, the Grand Ave crew under Lombardo’s direction spearheaded what was basically an outreach program to steer the organizational structure of the Latin Folks (the non-black organizations in the Folks alliance) via liaisons with the C-Notes. The Notes by this time had joined the Folks alliance under the banner of the “Insane” faction headed by the Spanish Cobras (a major PR gang). The motivations seems to have been the realization that “our people” (the Italians) were becoming a declining demographic and criminal force in Chicago and thus elements of the mafia sought to control the Hispanic organizations and push them into a more sophisticated, OC-oriented mode. With the C-Notes, the Grand Ave crew had access to the leadership of the “Tabla”’(the “Board”) of the Spanish Gangster Disciples Nation (aka “Spanish Growth and Development”), the deliberative and command echelon in the IL prison system for the Latin Folks (modeled on, but semi-autonomous from, the Black Gangster Disciples “Board” set up under “Chairman” Larry Hoover; Hoover, in turn, is apocryphally said to have modeled this structure on LCN). [should note here there is also an active street gang organization on the Northside of Chicago called SGDN; this was directly sponsored by the formation of the prison organization].

Long story short, this attempt to more fully organize the Latin Folks blew up pretty quickly in the 90s, in spectacular fashion, as bloody waves of gang warfare erupted on the streets of Humboldt Park, Logan Square, Hermosa etc., between the “Insane” and “Maniac” (the latter controlled by the Maniac Latin Disciples) factions (leading to a situation that while their leaders in prison all sat on the “Tabla” together, these organizations became implacable foes on the streets, a situations that pertains to this day).

Hagedorn has longstanding informant connections in the gang world and was able to corroborate and more fully flesh out the events of this period following his interviews with Sal. I can at least say that his account of the Insane/Maniac wars in the 90s is extremely accurate, as I lived through it and was a participant (to say that I am a “survivor” of these events isn’t hyperbole). I knew a number of the shooting victims and other actors that Hagedorm discusses. It also jibes with the general picture I had as a youth on the street: that not only the C-Notes (because duh, everyone know they were mobbed up) but also the Spanish Cobras had close ties to the mafia.

An interesting tangent in the book also comes from a separate interview that Hagedorn conducted with an informant that he calls “The Don”. This was not our good friend John Lennon, but rather the pseudonym that Hagedorn gave to an elderly Sicilian outfit member that Hagedorn was introduced to by a contact in the gang world. As part of the longer context of mafia-street gang contact, “The Don” told Hagedorn about longstanding ties between the outfit and black organizations on the Southside such as the Vice Lords and the Black P Stones, who “The Don” claimed outfit affiliates supplied with narcotics for street level distribution operations in the 1960s-70s. Again, fully plausible to me as factions of the VLs were long-rumored to have close ties to LCN.

In short, an excellent book by a respected criminology scholar, but which seems to have largely been ignored by the mob enthusiast readership.
I have ordered this as well, great rec. Tony were you a member of the Maniac Latin Disciples?
It's an important book for anyone interested in modern Chicago stuff IMO.

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