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Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by NorthBuffalo » Thu Nov 14, 2024 1:35 pm

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Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by NorthBuffalo » Thu Nov 14, 2024 1:15 pm

PolackTony wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 11:59 am
NorthBuffalo wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:14 am
Snakes wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:23 pm
NorthBuffalo wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:18 pmAlso for you Chicago experts, I was also recently put on to an individual named 'Steven Veteto' who was a collector for Anthony Chiaramonte in the early 1990s. Has anyone heard of him?
Ignoffo's actual first name is Ronald, but is commonly misspelled as "Roland."

Veteto seems like quite a character. He assaulted an undercover FBI agent and then agreed to cooperate before skipping town. He also beat up his mother and tried to set her on fire(!) according to this court opinion: https://case-law.vlex.com/vid/u-s-v-veteto-888307723

He ended up serving a few years. I'm not sure if he is still alive, but he is only in his 70s, so it's very possible.
I spoke with someone who knows Ignoffo. Roland Ignoffo was his father who was a major bookmaker for the northside crew in the 1970s, hence the confusion with the names. There was a Roland Jr. who is dead. There is a Salvatore Ignoffo (Ron's brother/Roland's oldest son) who was also affiliated with the Outfit. All of the Ignoffo sons were members of a white gang in Norridge (ChiWest).

Ronald Ignoffo goes by 'RJ' to most who know him. There is a lot of gambling up in north suburbs where he resides.
Right, Ronald Ignoffo’s dad was Roland Salvatore “Goldie” Ignoffo, Sr, a longtime outfit associate. Born in Chicago in 1915 to parents from Sambuca, he married Christine Nappi, sister of Romie Nappi and Gloria Nappi Fosco, Joe Fosco’s stepmother. Sons Ronald and Salvatore Ignoffo are thus step cousins of Joe Fosco. Other sons of Roland and Christine Ignoffo were Richard and Joseph; they did have a son named Roland Ignoffo, Jr, but he died as a toddler in the 1940s.

Not sure where you got Norridge from. I’m not aware that Chi-West ever had a chapter in Norridge, and the Ignoffos were not from there. The Ignoffos lived for over half a century at Keating and Wabansia in West Humboldt Park (father Roland Ignoffo was still living there when he died in 2006, amazingly, as he was interviewed by the Tribune earlier that year during the controversy over Chicago’s first WalMart, located nearby). For those not from Chicago, there is an enormous difference between having grown up in Norridge (a safe middle class suburb) and Humboldt Park (a former blue collar ethnic neighborhood that over the 1960s and 70s precipitously declined into a hardcore slum and one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in Chicago).

Eldest brother Salvatore Ignoffo was hospitalized in 1954 after being hit by a shotgun blast during a gang fight in the Montclare neighborhood when he was 15. It should be noted that this predated the formation of Chi-West, so his gang involvement was unrelated to that organization. Chi-West was a predominately Ukrainian gang formed in the late 50s in the vicinity of the intersection of Chicago and Western in the Ukrainian Village section of West Town (on the Westside of Chicago just north of the Grand Ave Italian community; I grew up in this area in the last years of Chi-West’s activity as a street gang). Later, in the 1960s and 70s, Chi-West expanded with new recruitment due to white youth organizing in opposition to the influx of Puerto Ricans on the NW Side, opening chapters in Logan Square, Hermosa/Belmont-Cragin, Albany Park, and West Humboldt Park. Ronald Ignoffo was the President of the latter chapter, which was based around Armitage and Cicero, near the Ignoffo home. Formed in the late 1960s, this chapter only lasted a few years before it was forced to shut down due to heavy opposition, as Chi-West was basically at war with every gang on the NW Side.

By the 1980s, Chi-West had become relegated to their original territory in Ukie Village. Their remaining leadership had, however, reputedly made close ties to Ukrainian organized crime. In the late 80s, Chi-West Chief Jack “The Jew” Farmer was featured on America’s Most Wanted after he fled to Fl to escape trial in Chicago on a litany of 108 Federal charges, ranging from murder to narcotics trafficking, armed robbery, and extortion. Described by Federal LE as a “mini-mafia”, the remaining Chi-West organization was alleged to have been operating a host of criminal activities to finance a FL-to-Chicago cocaine pipeline (the prosecutor in the case described Chi-West as “one of the most vicious groups of people I have ever seen” and feared that Farmer was aiming to have him assassinated). Farmer escaped custody after assaulting his own attorney and went on the lam, but was apprehend and sentenced to 40 years; he hung himself in prison in 1993. After Farmer was busted, Chi-West was basically defunct, though you could still find a couple of them menacing people in the vicinity of Chicago and Western, or near Augusta and Leavitt, into the early 90s, as they were backed on the street by the Latin Kings (Chi-West was left with no choice but to join the People alliance for the protection of the remaining membership). Chi-West was a legendary organization on the Near NW Side when I was a kid, in their last years of decline by then but notorious for their extreme viciousness and bravery. Absolute savages.
This guy is in his 70s but he says Ignoffo went to Foreman High School. He said 'Norridge/Cragin' area. He also went by 'Monster' and 'Ronnie the Beast.' He says the dad was indeed called 'Goldie.'

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Patrickgold » Thu Nov 14, 2024 1:11 pm

PolackTony wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 11:59 am
NorthBuffalo wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:14 am
Snakes wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:23 pm
NorthBuffalo wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:18 pmAlso for you Chicago experts, I was also recently put on to an individual named 'Steven Veteto' who was a collector for Anthony Chiaramonte in the early 1990s. Has anyone heard of him?
Ignoffo's actual first name is Ronald, but is commonly misspelled as "Roland."

Veteto seems like quite a character. He assaulted an undercover FBI agent and then agreed to cooperate before skipping town. He also beat up his mother and tried to set her on fire(!) according to this court opinion: https://case-law.vlex.com/vid/u-s-v-veteto-888307723

He ended up serving a few years. I'm not sure if he is still alive, but he is only in his 70s, so it's very possible.
I spoke with someone who knows Ignoffo. Roland Ignoffo was his father who was a major bookmaker for the northside crew in the 1970s, hence the confusion with the names. There was a Roland Jr. who is dead. There is a Salvatore Ignoffo (Ron's brother/Roland's oldest son) who was also affiliated with the Outfit. All of the Ignoffo sons were members of a white gang in Norridge (ChiWest).

Ronald Ignoffo goes by 'RJ' to most who know him. There is a lot of gambling up in north suburbs where he resides.
Right, Ronald Ignoffo’s dad was Roland Salvatore “Goldie” Ignoffo, Sr, a longtime outfit associate. Born in Chicago in 1915 to parents from Sambuca, he married Christine Nappi, sister of Romie Nappi and Gloria Nappi Fosco, Joe Fosco’s stepmother. Sons Ronald and Salvatore Ignoffo are thus step cousins of Joe Fosco. Other sons of Roland and Christine Ignoffo were Richard and Joseph; they did have a son named Roland Ignoffo, Jr, but he died as a toddler in the 1940s.

Not sure where you got Norridge from. I’m not aware that Chi-West ever had a chapter in Norridge, and the Ignoffos were not from there. The Ignoffos lived for over half a century at Keating and Wabansia in West Humboldt Park (father Roland Ignoffo was still living there when he died in 2006, amazingly, as he was interviewed by the Tribune earlier that year during the controversy over Chicago’s first WalMart, located nearby). For those not from Chicago, there is an enormous difference between having grown up in Norridge (a safe middle class suburb) and Humboldt Park (a former blue collar ethnic neighborhood that over the 1960s and 70s precipitously declined into a hardcore slum and one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in Chicago).

Eldest brother Salvatore Ignoffo was hospitalized in 1954 after being hit by a shotgun blast during a gang fight in the Montclare neighborhood when he was 15. It should be noted that this predated the formation of Chi-West, so his gang involvement was unrelated to that organization. Chi-West was a predominately Ukrainian gang formed in the late 50s in the vicinity of the intersection of Chicago and Western in the Ukrainian Village section of West Town (on the Westside of Chicago just north of the Grand Ave Italian community; I grew up in this area in the last years of Chi-West’s activity as a street gang). Later, in the 1960s and 70s, Chi-West expanded with new recruitment due to white youth organizing in opposition to the influx of Puerto Ricans on the NW Side, opening chapters in Logan Square, Hermosa/Belmont-Cragin, Albany Park, and West Humboldt Park. Ronald Ignoffo was the President of the latter chapter, which was based around Armitage and Cicero, near the Ignoffo home. Formed in the late 1960s, this chapter only lasted a few years before it was forced to shut down due to heavy opposition, as Chi-West was basically at war with every gang on the NW Side.

By the 1980s, Chi-West had become relegated to their original territory in Ukie Village. Their remaining leadership had, however, reputedly made close ties to Ukrainian organized crime. In the late 80s, Chi-West Chief Jack “The Jew” Farmer was featured on America’s Most Wanted after he fled to Fl to escape trial in Chicago on a litany of 108 Federal charges, ranging from murder to narcotics trafficking, armed robbery, and extortion. Described by Federal LE as a “mini-mafia”, the remaining Chi-West organization was alleged to have been operating a host of criminal activities to finance a FL-to-Chicago cocaine pipeline (the prosecutor in the case described Chi-West as “one of the most vicious groups of people I have ever seen” and feared that Farmer was aiming to have him assassinated). Farmer escaped custody after assaulting his own attorney and went on the lam, but was apprehend and sentenced to 40 years; he hung himself in prison in 1993. After Farmer was busted, Chi-West was basically defunct, though you could still find a couple of them menacing people in the vicinity of Chicago and Western, or near Augusta and Leavitt, into the early 90s, as they were backed on the street by the Latin Kings (Chi-West was left with no choice but to join the People alliance for the protection of the remaining membership). Chi-West was a legendary organization on the Near NW Side when I was a kid, in their last years of decline by then but notorious for their extreme viciousness and bravery. Absolute savages.
Good write up Tony. Just a little more recent info on Chi-West. There tagging has been popping up again on the Western and Chicago area again and supposedly they have made a resurgence by recruiting recent Ukrainian immigrants that have fled war torn Ukraine. I also heard a son of one of their chiefs has been the one responsible for their resurgence. He was living somewhere down south but moved back. No idea who that is. Despite the property value exploding in Ukrainian village, it is still an entry port for Ukrainians coming to Chicago. Never heard of them having a branch in Norridge like you commented on but it would not surprise me now bc if recent Ukrainian immigrants are no going to Ukrainian Village they are moving to that Cumberland and Lawrence area where the huge Ukrainian Church is.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by PolackTony » Thu Nov 14, 2024 11:59 am

NorthBuffalo wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:14 am
Snakes wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:23 pm
NorthBuffalo wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:18 pmAlso for you Chicago experts, I was also recently put on to an individual named 'Steven Veteto' who was a collector for Anthony Chiaramonte in the early 1990s. Has anyone heard of him?
Ignoffo's actual first name is Ronald, but is commonly misspelled as "Roland."

Veteto seems like quite a character. He assaulted an undercover FBI agent and then agreed to cooperate before skipping town. He also beat up his mother and tried to set her on fire(!) according to this court opinion: https://case-law.vlex.com/vid/u-s-v-veteto-888307723

He ended up serving a few years. I'm not sure if he is still alive, but he is only in his 70s, so it's very possible.
I spoke with someone who knows Ignoffo. Roland Ignoffo was his father who was a major bookmaker for the northside crew in the 1970s, hence the confusion with the names. There was a Roland Jr. who is dead. There is a Salvatore Ignoffo (Ron's brother/Roland's oldest son) who was also affiliated with the Outfit. All of the Ignoffo sons were members of a white gang in Norridge (ChiWest).

Ronald Ignoffo goes by 'RJ' to most who know him. There is a lot of gambling up in north suburbs where he resides.
Right, Ronald Ignoffo’s dad was Roland Salvatore “Goldie” Ignoffo, Sr, a longtime outfit associate. Born in Chicago in 1915 to parents from Sambuca, he married Christine Nappi, sister of Romie Nappi and Gloria Nappi Fosco, Joe Fosco’s stepmother. Sons Ronald and Salvatore Ignoffo are thus step cousins of Joe Fosco. Other sons of Roland and Christine Ignoffo were Richard and Joseph; they did have a son named Roland Ignoffo, Jr, but he died as a toddler in the 1940s.

Not sure where you got Norridge from. I’m not aware that Chi-West ever had a chapter in Norridge, and the Ignoffos were not from there. The Ignoffos lived for over half a century at Keating and Wabansia in West Humboldt Park (father Roland Ignoffo was still living there when he died in 2006, amazingly, as he was interviewed by the Tribune earlier that year during the controversy over Chicago’s first WalMart, located nearby). For those not from Chicago, there is an enormous difference between having grown up in Norridge (a safe middle class suburb) and Humboldt Park (a former blue collar ethnic neighborhood that over the 1960s and 70s precipitously declined into a hardcore slum and one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in Chicago).

Eldest brother Salvatore Ignoffo was hospitalized in 1954 after being hit by a shotgun blast during a gang fight in the Montclare neighborhood when he was 15. It should be noted that this predated the formation of Chi-West, so his gang involvement was unrelated to that organization. Chi-West was a predominately Ukrainian gang formed in the late 50s in the vicinity of the intersection of Chicago and Western in the Ukrainian Village section of West Town (on the Westside of Chicago just north of the Grand Ave Italian community; I grew up in this area in the last years of Chi-West’s activity as a street gang). Later, in the 1960s and 70s, Chi-West expanded with new recruitment due to white youth organizing in opposition to the influx of Puerto Ricans on the NW Side, opening chapters in Logan Square, Hermosa/Belmont-Cragin, Albany Park, and West Humboldt Park. Ronald Ignoffo was the President of the latter chapter, which was based around Armitage and Cicero, near the Ignoffo home. Formed in the late 1960s, this chapter only lasted a few years before it was forced to shut down due to heavy opposition, as Chi-West was basically at war with every gang on the NW Side.

By the 1980s, Chi-West had become relegated to their original territory in Ukie Village. Their remaining leadership had, however, reputedly made close ties to Ukrainian organized crime. In the late 80s, Chi-West Chief Jack “The Jew” Farmer was featured on America’s Most Wanted after he fled to Fl to escape trial in Chicago on a litany of 108 Federal charges, ranging from murder to narcotics trafficking, armed robbery, and extortion. Described by Federal LE as a “mini-mafia”, the remaining Chi-West organization was alleged to have been operating a host of criminal activities to finance a FL-to-Chicago cocaine pipeline (the prosecutor in the case described Chi-West as “one of the most vicious groups of people I have ever seen” and feared that Farmer was aiming to have him assassinated). Farmer escaped custody after assaulting his own attorney and went on the lam, but was apprehend and sentenced to 40 years; he hung himself in prison in 1993. After Farmer was busted, Chi-West was basically defunct, though you could still find a couple of them menacing people in the vicinity of Chicago and Western, or near Augusta and Leavitt, into the early 90s, as they were backed on the street by the Latin Kings (Chi-West was left with no choice but to join the People alliance for the protection of the remaining membership). Chi-West was a legendary organization on the Near NW Side when I was a kid, in their last years of decline by then but notorious for their extreme viciousness and bravery. Absolute savages.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by NorthBuffalo » Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:49 am

Snakes wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:44 am Posted a pic of Ignoffo in the Photos thread: viewtopic.php?p=286359#p286359
I still don't have access despite being on here and sharing as much as I do :lol: BC I'm SolarSolano/Fratto/TallGuy and several other posters all at once.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Snakes » Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:44 am

Posted a pic of Ignoffo in the Photos thread: viewtopic.php?p=286359#p286359

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by NorthBuffalo » Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:14 am

Snakes wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:23 pm
NorthBuffalo wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:18 pmAlso for you Chicago experts, I was also recently put on to an individual named 'Steven Veteto' who was a collector for Anthony Chiaramonte in the early 1990s. Has anyone heard of him?
Ignoffo's actual first name is Ronald, but is commonly misspelled as "Roland."

Veteto seems like quite a character. He assaulted an undercover FBI agent and then agreed to cooperate before skipping town. He also beat up his mother and tried to set her on fire(!) according to this court opinion: https://case-law.vlex.com/vid/u-s-v-veteto-888307723

He ended up serving a few years. I'm not sure if he is still alive, but he is only in his 70s, so it's very possible.
I spoke with someone who knows Ignoffo. Roland Ignoffo was his father who was a major bookmaker for the northside crew in the 1970s, hence the confusion with the names. There was a Roland Jr. who is dead. There is a Salvatore Ignoffo (Ron's brother/Roland's oldest son) who was also affiliated with the Outfit. All of the Ignoffo sons were members of a white gang in Norridge (ChiWest).

Ronald Ignoffo goes by 'RJ' to most who know him. There is a lot of gambling up in north suburbs where he resides.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by PolackTony » Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:07 pm

Nice pics. Don’t believe I’ve seen that one of La Balestea before.

Yeah, Veteto was a rough dude. He pled guilty in 1985 in IL to extortion and assault charges for roughing a guy up while collecting on a juice loan. He was sentenced to three years probation and then skipped town and bounced around between Detroit and Alabama. In 1987, the FBI contacted him in AL and told him that he was going to be called to testify back in Cook County for a murder trial. At that point, Veteto then broke contact with LE and a warrant was issued for his arrest for violating his parole. As Snakes noted, he was later apprehended in Vermont for assaulting his mother and setting her on fire. All told, he wound up getting a sentence of ten years in the Feds but was released in 1995 from Federal custody, at which point I believe that he moved to KY where he died in 2014.

Steven Veteto was born in 1947, but I’m not sure where he was born. Despite the appearance, the surname is not Italian. Veteto/Vittitoe is actually a “hillbilly” surname from KY/TN of distant German origin. I’m pretty sure that he was not born in Chicago; he could have been born in KY. I can’t say for sure that he wasn’t originally from somewhere in Western NY state, though his mom at one point at least was living in Vermont. Over the years, Steven Veteto lived in IL, KY, LA, AL, OH, MI, and VT, but never seen anything tying him to NY state (there are some Vetetos from KY who migrated to Buffalo before WW2, however, though there are also people from Appalachia with this surname who wound up all over the country as part of the 20th century migration out of the rural South).

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by NorthBuffalo » Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:57 pm

Snakes wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:23 pm
NorthBuffalo wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:18 pmAlso for you Chicago experts, I was also recently put on to an individual named 'Steven Veteto' who was a collector for Anthony Chiaramonte in the early 1990s. Has anyone heard of him?
Ignoffo's actual first name is Ronald, but is commonly misspelled as "Roland."

Veteto seems like quite a character. He assaulted an undercover FBI agent and then agreed to cooperate before skipping town. He also beat up his mother and tried to set her on fire(!) according to this court opinion: https://case-law.vlex.com/vid/u-s-v-veteto-888307723

He ended up serving a few years. I'm not sure if he is still alive, but he is only in his 70s, so it's very possible.
Yes you are right - he was named as 'Ronnie the Beast' to me. A former leader of the ChiWest gang.

Re: Veteto - yes what a character. A good source believes he was from Buffalo, which is why I raised it - that would be interesting if true as he was working for the Carlisi Crew who had obvious connections to Buffalo. I am not sure if accurate or not as I seem to fall for a lot BS often.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Snakes » Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:23 pm

NorthBuffalo wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:18 pmAlso for you Chicago experts, I was also recently put on to an individual named 'Steven Veteto' who was a collector for Anthony Chiaramonte in the early 1990s. Has anyone heard of him?
Ignoffo's actual first name is Ronald, but is commonly misspelled as "Roland."

Veteto seems like quite a character. He assaulted an undercover FBI agent and then agreed to cooperate before skipping town. He also beat up his mother and tried to set her on fire(!) according to this court opinion: https://case-law.vlex.com/vid/u-s-v-veteto-888307723

He ended up serving a few years. I'm not sure if he is still alive, but he is only in his 70s, so it's very possible.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by NorthBuffalo » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:18 pm

A few rare photos of Outfit guys from the 1990s who are still alive.

Pietro "Mustache Pete" LaBalestra
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Richard "Richie G" Gervasio
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Roland "The Beast" Ignoffo
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Also for you Chicago experts, I was also recently put on to an individual named 'Steven Veteto' who was a collector for Anthony Chiaramonte in the early 1990s. Has anyone heard of him?

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by antimafia » Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:41 pm

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Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Richards_bar » Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:44 pm

Patrickgold wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:38 pm
Coloboy wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:00 pm A few articles ago Scott B. posted a "west coast power rankings" list.

Rocco Lombardo was listed at #9, and described as being "stationed" there on behalf of his deceased brother.

I'm familiar with the crazy horse strip club deal from around 2007, but is there anything at all that points to him being active in the outfit in any way in the last decade?
Last I heard Rocco was retired and not living in Vegas. He was living in Arizona. I guess Arizona is still considered West Coast but he lists him as LV.

I also saw his article on top non Italian associates in the mafia and he listed Porky on there when he’s been dead for 2 years
Porkys so dangerous he still makes the top ten as a corpse.

Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

by Patrickgold » Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:38 pm

Coloboy wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:00 pm A few articles ago Scott B. posted a "west coast power rankings" list.

Rocco Lombardo was listed at #9, and described as being "stationed" there on behalf of his deceased brother.

I'm familiar with the crazy horse strip club deal from around 2007, but is there anything at all that points to him being active in the outfit in any way in the last decade?
Last I heard Rocco was retired and not living in Vegas. He was living in Arizona. I guess Arizona is still considered West Coast but he lists him as LV.

I also saw his article on top non Italian associates in the mafia and he listed Porky on there when he’s been dead for 2 years

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