by Wiseguy » Sun Aug 18, 2024 8:54 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 6:01 pm
Teflon Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 2:46 pm
[The least reliable people on the subject
The most reliable being Fuggetaboutit and his multiple accounts.
Pogo
The assclown accuses us of lying when, beside the obvious point that we have no reason to lie, and would get nothing out of doing so, he can't even be honest about who he is.
Anyway, some may recall the bogus charts floating around on the forums 20 years ago that would show around 20 members for St. Louis and around 30 for Milwaukee. This latest Detroit chart is the same thing over again.
For those who live in reality, Detroit was said by the feds to have 29-30 members between 1996 and 2001. Even Scott himself had them at 25 members in his 2006 book. Since then, at least 22 members have died.
Do...the...math. And if you can only respond with either, "They could have made more members" or "Scott Bernstein said...," don't bother since that just proves my point.
Of those names on the chart, only Dominick Corrado, Paul A. Corrado, Peter J. Corrado, Jack Giacalone, Joseph Giacalone and Anthony LaPiana have been identified as made by official sources, as far as I'm aware. Once again, Bernstein doesn't count. I don't know how many times people have to be burned by him before they wise up and stop taking what he reports at face value. Anyone who thinks Detroit has 20-30 members today is living in fantasy land. In all probability it doesn't even have 10.
And we're seeing the same thing there that we've repeatedly seen in other cities where the LCN family has died out. Membership dwindling to the point that there is no real functioning hierarchy anymore. Most of the actually inducted (not "speculated") members old and inactive. Most of their relatives or associates have gone legit. And what criminal activity remains mostly in the form of bookmaking and loansharking. And even that is largely supplementary to their legit businesses.
We won't see anything like the 1996 Gamtax case again. We likely won't even see anything like the much smaller, and insignificant, 2006 case. That should tell you all you need to know.
[quote="Pogo The Clown" post_id=282018 time=1724029307 user_id=53]
[quote="Teflon Dom" post_id=282006 time=1724017579 user_id=7078]
[The least reliable people on the subject
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The most reliable being Fuggetaboutit and his multiple accounts. :lol:
Pogo
[/quote]
The assclown accuses us of lying when, beside the obvious point that we have no reason to lie, and would get nothing out of doing so, he can't even be honest about who he is.
Anyway, some may recall the bogus charts floating around on the forums 20 years ago that would show around 20 members for St. Louis and around 30 for Milwaukee. This latest Detroit chart is the same thing over again.
For those who live in reality, Detroit was said by the feds to have 29-30 members between 1996 and 2001. Even Scott himself had them at 25 members in his 2006 book. Since then, at least 22 members have died. [i]Do...the...math[/i]. And if you can only respond with either, "They could have made more members" or "Scott Bernstein said...," don't bother since that just proves my point.
Of those names on the chart, only Dominick Corrado, Paul A. Corrado, Peter J. Corrado, Jack Giacalone, Joseph Giacalone and Anthony LaPiana have been identified as made by official sources, as far as I'm aware. Once again, Bernstein doesn't count. I don't know how many times people have to be burned by him before they wise up and stop taking what he reports at face value. Anyone who thinks Detroit has 20-30 members today is living in fantasy land. In all probability it doesn't even have 10.
And we're seeing the same thing there that we've repeatedly seen in other cities where the LCN family has died out. Membership dwindling to the point that there is no real functioning hierarchy anymore. Most of the actually inducted (not "speculated") members old and inactive. Most of their relatives or associates have gone legit. And what criminal activity remains mostly in the form of bookmaking and loansharking. And even that is largely supplementary to their legit businesses.
We won't see anything like the 1996 Gamtax case again. We likely won't even see anything like the much smaller, and insignificant, 2006 case. That should tell you all you need to know.