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Re: Mancuso released

by SonnyBlackstein » Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:40 pm

Maybe the Feds misunderstood and thought having a case of, was a medical contagion.

Re: Mancuso released

by slimshady_007 » Sat Aug 10, 2024 4:03 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:04 pm
slimshady_007 wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 11:27 am
Snakes wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 2:26 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:56 am
Snakes wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:39 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:10 am
TommyGambino wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:38 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 11:27 am My only guess is the feds fucking with the family. Every wiseguy in the city would be asking the same question.

Cast suspicion, tickle the wires. Can't think of anything else.
My guess is they are already building a case against him
Possibly, but for what? He's barely out, what could he have done?
They can build a case for years. They want a boss on more than just a probation violation.
But then why nab Mancuso?
Get him off the street for a year or two while they build something bigger. I'm certain that every single LCN boss has a pending case against them, but whether or not it comes to an indictment before they die is up in the air.
Well said. The Feds won’t drop the case until they feel that it’s strong enough. Out of all the bosses, Mancuso seems to be the most hands on, so I think the indictment will come sooner rather than later.
Yeah brilliant. Barney and Dom have been boss for 15 years.
Feds take their time building those cases eh.

Or theyre shit out of luck.

Gee I wonder which one.
IMO Barney is just very intelligent & hard to get. He was schooled by guys who were real Cosa Nostra like his father, Chin, Benny Eggs, & others. Still, Barney will probably get indicted for some racketeering case down the line. I think Dom is more of a figurehead by this point, but I could be wrong. Lore seems to be the head honcho since Frankie died.

Re: Mancuso released

by Snakes » Wed Aug 07, 2024 7:12 am

Maybe I was too harsh in my initial response, so I'll explain. I'm obviously not an agent, but this is my understanding about how cases are opened, investigated, and ultimately brought to a conclusion:

The FBI is (obviously) tasked with investigating organized criminal groups, including LCN. Their main goal is to dismantle the LCN families and a large part of that goal is done through convicting and imprisoning the leadership of LCN families.

Let's use Mancuso as the example since he is the subject of this thread. They receive information that Mancuso is involved with the Bonanno family. The FBI later discovers Mancuso is boss of said family. They open a case file on him (they may already have one, but I want to keep it simple). They receive information about the illegal activities that Mancuso supervises, either through CW's, CI's, wiretaps, etc. They collect this information until they have enough to put it before a DA, who will then make a determination over whether or not it's a prosecutable case. The more damning the information contained in the investigative file, the better chance the DA has to recommend advancing it. If they do recommend prosecution, the evidence is presented before a grand jury where a final determination is made. If the grand jury determines there is probable cause, an indictment is issued by the Federal Department of Justice.

I'm almost certain Mancuso has a file where the FBI is accumulating source information and evidence of him being engaged in illegal activity. I'm certain the same can be said about Bellomo, although I'm sure the agents assigned to him are tasked with a much more difficult investigation considering the contrasting natures of Mancuso and Bellomo's leadership styles.

Remember in the Sopranos when the agent told Adriana "it took years to build a case against Joe Massino"? Well, she was right. It sometimes takes years. Years of accumulating information and collecting evidence. The FBI wants to make sure that they have enough there to make a prosecutable case against their target. Sometimes it's shorter than "years." Sometimes it never happens. But there are almost certainly pending cases open against the bosses/acting bosses of the Five Families, probably most of the admin, and some of the more prominent crews, members, and associates.

Re: Mancuso released

by Pogo The Clown » Tue Aug 06, 2024 8:06 pm

Fuggetaboutit being a usual suspect. :lol:


Pogo

Re: Mancuso released

by Teflon Dom » Tue Aug 06, 2024 6:07 pm

Snakes wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 4:45 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:04 pm
slimshady_007 wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 11:27 am
Snakes wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 2:26 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:56 am
Snakes wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:39 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:10 am
TommyGambino wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:38 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 11:27 am My only guess is the feds fucking with the family. Every wiseguy in the city would be asking the same question.

Cast suspicion, tickle the wires. Can't think of anything else.
My guess is they are already building a case against him
Possibly, but for what? He's barely out, what could he have done?
They can build a case for years. They want a boss on more than just a probation violation.
But then why nab Mancuso?
Get him off the street for a year or two while they build something bigger. I'm certain that every single LCN boss has a pending case against them, but whether or not it comes to an indictment before they die is up in the air.
Well said. The Feds won’t drop the case until they feel that it’s strong enough. Out of all the bosses, Mancuso seems to be the most hands on, so I think the indictment will come sooner rather than later.
Yeah brilliant. Barney and Dom have been boss for 15 years.
Feds take their time building those cases eh.

Or theyre shit out of luck.

Gee I wonder which one.
You don't think they have cases open on them? You're dumber than I thought, and I usually give you the benefit of the doubt
Snakes killing the usual suspects LOL

Re: Mancuso released

by Teflon Dom » Tue Aug 06, 2024 6:05 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 11:27 am My only guess is the feds fucking with the family. Every wiseguy in the city would be asking the same question.

Cast suspicion, tickle the wires. Can't think of anything else.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Mancuso released

by SonnyBlackstein » Tue Aug 06, 2024 6:01 pm

Snakes wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 4:45 pm You don't think they have cases open on them? You're dumber than I thought, and I usually give you the benefit of the doubt
C'mon mate, do better than base insults.

The Feds have a 'case' on every wiseguy in the city.
That is to say, they want to put them away. They're 'building a case' against ALL of them.

You cant build a 'case' on being a WG. On being a boss.
You build a case ON A CRIME.

Are the Feds watching Mikey? Of course. Are they watching Johnny Joe? Of course. But they need crimes to convict. Thats what CASES are about.


Why the 'case' on one, and not the other.


PS I now hate the word case.

Re: Mancuso released

by Snakes » Tue Aug 06, 2024 4:47 pm

There is almost no way there is not a known boss that doesn't have some kind of open case pending against them. It may be a bunch of nothing, but the whole mission of the FBI is to dismantle the families and it starts at the top. They are collecting information on these guys and looking for anything to build a case on.

Re: Mancuso released

by Snakes » Tue Aug 06, 2024 4:45 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:04 pm
slimshady_007 wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 11:27 am
Snakes wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 2:26 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:56 am
Snakes wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:39 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:10 am
TommyGambino wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:38 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 11:27 am My only guess is the feds fucking with the family. Every wiseguy in the city would be asking the same question.

Cast suspicion, tickle the wires. Can't think of anything else.
My guess is they are already building a case against him
Possibly, but for what? He's barely out, what could he have done?
They can build a case for years. They want a boss on more than just a probation violation.
But then why nab Mancuso?
Get him off the street for a year or two while they build something bigger. I'm certain that every single LCN boss has a pending case against them, but whether or not it comes to an indictment before they die is up in the air.
Well said. The Feds won’t drop the case until they feel that it’s strong enough. Out of all the bosses, Mancuso seems to be the most hands on, so I think the indictment will come sooner rather than later.
Yeah brilliant. Barney and Dom have been boss for 15 years.
Feds take their time building those cases eh.

Or theyre shit out of luck.

Gee I wonder which one.
You don't think they have cases open on them? You're dumber than I thought, and I usually give you the benefit of the doubt

Re: Mancuso released

by SonnyBlackstein » Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:04 pm

slimshady_007 wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 11:27 am
Snakes wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 2:26 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:56 am
Snakes wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:39 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:10 am
TommyGambino wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:38 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 11:27 am My only guess is the feds fucking with the family. Every wiseguy in the city would be asking the same question.

Cast suspicion, tickle the wires. Can't think of anything else.
My guess is they are already building a case against him
Possibly, but for what? He's barely out, what could he have done?
They can build a case for years. They want a boss on more than just a probation violation.
But then why nab Mancuso?
Get him off the street for a year or two while they build something bigger. I'm certain that every single LCN boss has a pending case against them, but whether or not it comes to an indictment before they die is up in the air.
Well said. The Feds won’t drop the case until they feel that it’s strong enough. Out of all the bosses, Mancuso seems to be the most hands on, so I think the indictment will come sooner rather than later.
Yeah brilliant. Barney and Dom have been boss for 15 years.
Feds take their time building those cases eh.

Or theyre shit out of luck.

Gee I wonder which one.

Re: Mancuso released

by slimshady_007 » Tue Aug 06, 2024 11:27 am

Snakes wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 2:26 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:56 am
Snakes wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:39 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:10 am
TommyGambino wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:38 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 11:27 am My only guess is the feds fucking with the family. Every wiseguy in the city would be asking the same question.

Cast suspicion, tickle the wires. Can't think of anything else.
My guess is they are already building a case against him
Possibly, but for what? He's barely out, what could he have done?
They can build a case for years. They want a boss on more than just a probation violation.
But then why nab Mancuso?
Get him off the street for a year or two while they build something bigger. I'm certain that every single LCN boss has a pending case against them, but whether or not it comes to an indictment before they die is up in the air.
Well said. The Feds won’t drop the case until they feel that it’s strong enough. Out of all the bosses, Mancuso seems to be the most hands on, so I think the indictment will come sooner rather than later.

Re: Mancuso released

by CornerBoy » Mon Aug 05, 2024 4:26 pm

THESE PAROLE OFFICERS ARE SAD, PROBABLY ABUSED IN HIGH SCHOOL SO WENT INTO THE "PROFESSION" WITH LOW BARRIERS TO ENTRY AND SOUGHT OUT HIS REVENGE. THE LAST DAY.

Re: Mancuso released

by peteyboxcars » Mon Aug 05, 2024 12:50 pm

AntComello wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:41 am Cammarano is now back in hiding.
Porky aint hiding. Dude is all over the place. !!

Re: Mancuso released

by Snakes » Sun Aug 04, 2024 2:26 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:56 am
Snakes wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:39 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:10 am
TommyGambino wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:38 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 11:27 am My only guess is the feds fucking with the family. Every wiseguy in the city would be asking the same question.

Cast suspicion, tickle the wires. Can't think of anything else.
My guess is they are already building a case against him
Possibly, but for what? He's barely out, what could he have done?
They can build a case for years. They want a boss on more than just a probation violation.
But then why nab Mancuso?
Get him off the street for a year or two while they build something bigger. I'm certain that every single LCN boss has a pending case against them, but whether or not it comes to an indictment before they die is up in the air.

Re: Mancuso released

by OcSleeper » Sun Aug 04, 2024 12:13 pm

Mancuso was too. It was literally the last day of his supervised release when he got violated.

In Mancuso's parole violation hearing his parole officer said the government was pressuring him to violate him. Mancuso and Spirito had the some parole officer too. The feds had some investigations up and were considering moving forward with them against Mancuso. His PO was giving Mancuso quite a but of leeway with accidently running into guys like Spirito, Aiello, and Uvino.

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