by PolackTony » Fri Jun 28, 2024 2:40 pm
Patrickgold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:31 pm
Ivan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:06 am
PolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:51 am
Ivan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:50 am
What the fuck is a "Gabeet"?
“Ha Capito”.
Awesome, thank you.
Sir: I have heard that "Negall" (Joe Ferriola) is a corruption of "(Charles) De Gaulle". I have trouble believing this. Is it correct?
Bellavia to my eyes and ears comes across as intelligent and articulate in that video. (Enthusiasm for Sudoku expressed at the end reinforced by "intelligent" perception -- dumb people don't do number game shit for fun.) Antiliar's source said (as of 2022ish) he was "heavy in the street" in spite of being 150 years old.
Nagel is a reference to the street that he lived on in Chicago
Did someone make this claim? I don't think it's correct.
A. Nagle Ave (6343 West, mainly on the Far NW Side of Chicago with a small section on the Far SW Side) is pronounced like "bagel". Ferriola's nickname is usually rendered by the press and LE as "Negall" or "Nagall". Frank Cullotta pronounced it like "nuh-GALL".
B. When did Joe Feriola ever live on Nagle Ave? The Ferriolas were from Taylor St. As a kid and into his youth in the 1940s Joe Ferriola lived on the 900 block of S Hoyne (between Arthington and Taylor). By the late 40s/early 50s, Joe Ferriola had an address in the Taylor St Patch on the 2300 block of W Grenshaw (btwn Claremont and Western), while his parents had moved from the city to S 61st Ave in Cicero. By the late 50s and into the 1960s, Ferriola was living in Riverside (he later moved to Westchester IL and then to Oak Brook). By the 1960s the FBI had already recorded that his nickname was "Joe Negall" as well as "Joe Nick".
The Feds, as was often the case, didn't understand what they were hearing and tried to make sense of the nickname, even, humorously, rendering it as "De Gaule" in some reports. "nuh-GOAL", however, is just the Napolitan' pronunciation of "Nicola". As I've written before, Ferriola's father was Nicola "Nick" Ferraiolo. In old neighborhoods like Taylor St -- where practically every boy was a Joey, Johnny, Tony, Nicky, etc -- they used to often call kids by their dad's name to distinguish them from each other and these often stuck as personal/familial nicknames.
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What the fuck is a "Gabeet"?
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“Ha Capito”.
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Awesome, thank you. :lol:
Sir: I have heard that "Negall" (Joe Ferriola) is a corruption of "(Charles) De Gaulle". I have trouble believing this. Is it correct?
Bellavia to my eyes and ears comes across as intelligent and articulate in that video. (Enthusiasm for Sudoku expressed at the end reinforced by "intelligent" perception -- dumb people don't do number game shit for fun.) Antiliar's source said (as of 2022ish) he was "heavy in the street" in spite of being 150 years old.
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Nagel is a reference to the street that he lived on in Chicago
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Did someone make this claim? I don't think it's correct.
A. Nagle Ave (6343 West, mainly on the Far NW Side of Chicago with a small section on the Far SW Side) is pronounced like "bagel". Ferriola's nickname is usually rendered by the press and LE as "Negall" or "Nagall". Frank Cullotta pronounced it like "nuh-GALL".
B. When did Joe Feriola ever live on Nagle Ave? The Ferriolas were from Taylor St. As a kid and into his youth in the 1940s Joe Ferriola lived on the 900 block of S Hoyne (between Arthington and Taylor). By the late 40s/early 50s, Joe Ferriola had an address in the Taylor St Patch on the 2300 block of W Grenshaw (btwn Claremont and Western), while his parents had moved from the city to S 61st Ave in Cicero. By the late 50s and into the 1960s, Ferriola was living in Riverside (he later moved to Westchester IL and then to Oak Brook). By the 1960s the FBI had already recorded that his nickname was "Joe Negall" as well as "Joe Nick".
The Feds, as was often the case, didn't understand what they were hearing and tried to make sense of the nickname, even, humorously, rendering it as "De Gaule" in some reports. "nuh-GOAL", however, is just the Napolitan' pronunciation of "Nicola". As I've written before, Ferriola's father was Nicola "Nick" Ferraiolo. In old neighborhoods like Taylor St -- where practically every boy was a Joey, Johnny, Tony, Nicky, etc -- they used to often call kids by their dad's name to distinguish them from each other and these often stuck as personal/familial nicknames.