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Re: Matteo Messina Denaro has died

by Tonyd621 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:18 am

OcSleeper wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:18 am Matteo Messina Denaro’s tattoo could recall his baptism as a killer
https://news.italy24.press/local/1518388.html

Matteo Messina Denaro was active on social media as a “single doctor”
https://news.italy24.press/local/1514961.html

Facebook & IG below
https://www.instagram.com/f.averna?igsh ... d1dmN3eXNi
https://www.facebook.com/francesco.aver ... tid=ZbWKwL
Can't believe this guy on the run with his stature had an active social media presence. I wonder if some people in LE knew...

Re: Matteo Messina Denaro has died

by OcSleeper » Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:18 am

Matteo Messina Denaro’s tattoo could recall his baptism as a killer
https://news.italy24.press/local/1518388.html

Matteo Messina Denaro was active on social media as a “single doctor”
https://news.italy24.press/local/1514961.html

Facebook & IG below
https://www.instagram.com/f.averna?igsh ... d1dmN3eXNi
https://www.facebook.com/francesco.aver ... tid=ZbWKwL

Re: Matteo Messina Denaro has died

by Strax » Wed Sep 27, 2023 5:33 am

Dwalin2014 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 4:24 pm Imo it could also be that the next most important boss is somebody we never heard about, maybe some freemason lodge member without a criminal record even, much less a fugitive status, unlike Motisi...
Could be, but that kind of people prefer to stay in the shadows and appear as businessman. If they take the top spot , its too much heat.

Inside MMD's hideout police found mobile phone number of venerable master of the masonic lodge "Ferrer" Of Castelvetrano.Doctor Quintino Paola.His defense was: "I am a doctor,many people have my number". Also they found hidden bunker used by MMD in house of former politician Errico Risalvato acquitted of mafia charges in 2001.Errico is brother of Giovanni Risalvato a concrete entrepreneur. They are both freemasons also.

Re: Matteo Messina Denaro has died

by Strax » Wed Sep 27, 2023 5:31 am

Sol wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 2:07 pm If Motisi is still alive, does that make him the clear candidate to be the next boss of bosses?......Sol
I would say yes, he also comes from Corleonesi like everybody else before.Boss Giuseppe Calvaruso was caught on tape saying Motisi have the last word, the last evidence of Motisi was found at 2007 in villa in Casteldaccia, police raided villa and found out that Motisi celebrated his daughter's birthday there , they also found photographs. Since then nothing, many say he is dead, some informants say he is alive, i have no idea.

If he takes the top stop from MMD , there will be evidence for sure, he must step out from shadows. Like with MMD, everyone knew he was alive , was even caught on camera once.

Re: Matteo Messina Denaro has died

by Dwalin2014 » Tue Sep 26, 2023 4:24 pm

Imo it could also be that the next most important boss is somebody we never heard about, maybe some freemason lodge member without a criminal record even, much less a fugitive status, unlike Motisi...

Re: Matteo Messina Denaro has died

by Sol » Tue Sep 26, 2023 4:14 pm

Strax wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 2:29 pm
Sol wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 2:07 pm Who is the most powerful mafia boss now that MMD is dead?......Sol
There is no 'clear candidate' like we had with Riina-Provenzano-Denaro. Giovanni Motisi is on most wanted list since 1998 , but he is basically a ghost , its unknown if he is even still alive. Some informants claim he is alive and still running things.

Most powerful families are Greco's,Guttadauro's,Lo Piccolo's. Guttadauro's are intermarried with Denaro's , so i would say they are most powerful now.
If Motisi is still alive, does that make him the clear candidate to be the next boss of bosses?......Sol

Re: Matteo Messina Denaro has died

by Strax » Tue Sep 26, 2023 2:29 pm

Sol wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 2:07 pm Who is the most powerful mafia boss now that MMD is dead?......Sol
There is no 'clear candidate' like we had with Riina-Provenzano-Denaro. Giovanni Motisi is on most wanted list since 1998 , but he is basically a ghost , its unknown if he is even still alive. Some informants claim he is alive and still running things.

Most powerful families are Greco's,Guttadauro's,Lo Piccolo's. Guttadauro's are intermarried with Denaro's , so i would say they are most powerful now.

Re: Matteo Messina Denaro has died

by Sol » Tue Sep 26, 2023 2:07 pm

Who is the most powerful mafia boss now that MMD is dead?......Sol

Re: Matteo Messina Denaro has died

by Adam » Mon Sep 25, 2023 3:57 pm

Good point. Hopefully they don't have quite the number of mob fanboys like we have here on this site and in American society in general.

Re: Matteo Messina Denaro has died

by LarryC » Mon Sep 25, 2023 3:37 pm

Strax wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 3:09 pm
LarryC wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 1:02 pm Every citizen of Italy feels the same way.
Matteo Messina Denaro was definitely an evil man, but he is far from being sole problem in the war against mafia. Members of secret services/politicians/freemasonry members who protected him for 30+ years , not just him but also Riina and Provenzano , people who are real power behind the mafia will never see any prison time. Borsellino's brother said that Matteo's arrest was probably deal between state and mafia and people who ordered Falcone's and Borsellino's death will probably never serve any prison time.

Few years ago when mafia wanted to kill Nino Di Matteo , Matteo Messina Denaro said that same people who wanted Falcone and Borsellino dead ordered it and that it has to be done, luckily police learned about it thru informants and seized explosives and arrested several people. But that indicates that those people are still in power and still free. Also during 'Ndrangheta stato-mafia trial several witnesses said: "Real power behind 'Ndrangheta are people that don't even have a parking ticket". Those people are the real problem , without them mafia would be average street gang.
Completely agree with you here.
However, citizens of Italy are cheering for the death of Messina-Denaro. It's not like in the US where people think it's some kind of pride to be in the mafia, related to, or know them. It's disgraceful and shameful to Italians. Furio is spot on by saying rest in hell.

Re: Matteo Messina Denaro has died

by Strax » Mon Sep 25, 2023 3:09 pm

LarryC wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 1:02 pm Every citizen of Italy feels the same way.
Matteo Messina Denaro was definitely an evil man, but he is far from being sole problem in the war against mafia. Members of secret services/politicians/freemasonry members who protected him for 30+ years , not just him but also Riina and Provenzano , people who are real power behind the mafia will never see any prison time. Borsellino's brother said that Matteo's arrest was probably deal between state and mafia and people who ordered Falcone's and Borsellino's death will probably never serve any prison time.

Few years ago when mafia wanted to kill Nino Di Matteo , Matteo Messina Denaro said that same people who wanted Falcone and Borsellino dead ordered it and that it has to be done, luckily police learned about it thru informants and seized explosives and arrested several people. But that indicates that those people are still in power and still free. Also during 'Ndrangheta stato-mafia trial several witnesses said: "Real power behind 'Ndrangheta are people that don't even have a parking ticket". Those people are the real problem , without them mafia would be average street gang.

Re: Matteo Messina Denaro has died

by LarryC » Mon Sep 25, 2023 1:02 pm

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:55 am
furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 11:24 pm Rot in Hell MMD.
Damn furio …. Seem to take this one a little personal buddy….
Every citizen of Italy feels the same way.

Re: Matteo Messina Denaro has died

by furiofromnaples » Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:52 am

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:55 am
furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 11:24 pm Rot in Hell MMD.
Damn furio …. Seem to take this one a little personal buddy….
JeremyTheJew MMD was a fucking psyco not a good man,he ordered to knipnak and kill an innocent 12 years old among the other things he did.

Re: Matteo Messina Denaro has died

by JeremyTheJew » Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:55 am

furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 11:24 pm Rot in Hell MMD.
Damn furio …. Seem to take this one a little personal buddy….

Re: Matteo Messina Denaro has died

by Sol » Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:52 am

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Another one supposedly after he was arrested......Sol

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