THE BLACK HAND FORUM

PolackTony wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:30 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:20 pm I remember this about Ouimettes power back then;

"Ouimette was so powerful in the 1970s that maximum-security guards at the Adult Correctional Institutions delivered not only boxes of smuggled food and alcohol to his cell, but also his 5-year-old son for a sleepover and New York civil rights lawyer William Kunstler for a lavish dinner."

FBI informants in the '60s painted Ouimette's stature such that he was treated as a de facto capodecina by Patriarca, while of course not being an actual member. He clearly had a lot of clout and status and ranked as one of the upper-tier associates, accorded as much respect as possible for someone who was not a made guy, that we see around different Families, like Lansky, Watts, Alex, McIntosh, Rockman, Diez, Michaels, etc.

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:20 pm I remember this about Ouimettes power back then;

"Ouimette was so powerful in the 1970s that maximum-security guards at the Adult Correctional Institutions delivered not only boxes of smuggled food and alcohol to his cell, but also his 5-year-old son for a sleepover and New York civil rights lawyer William Kunstler for a lavish dinner."

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:40 pm

PolackTony wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:30 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:20 pm I remember this about Ouimettes power back then;

"Ouimette was so powerful in the 1970s that maximum-security guards at the Adult Correctional Institutions delivered not only boxes of smuggled food and alcohol to his cell, but also his 5-year-old son for a sleepover and New York civil rights lawyer William Kunstler for a lavish dinner."

FBI informants in the '60s painted Ouimette's stature such that he was treated as a de facto capodecina by Patriarca, while of course not being an actual member. He clearly had a lot of clout and status and ranked as one of the upper-tier associates, accorded as much respect as possible for someone who was not a made guy, that we see around different Families, like Lansky, Watts, Alex, McIntosh, Rockman, Diez, Michaels, etc.

It gives a new meaning to the "big house"

PolackTony wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:30 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:20 pm I remember this about Ouimettes power back then;

"Ouimette was so powerful in the 1970s that maximum-security guards at the Adult Correctional Institutions delivered not only boxes of smuggled food and alcohol to his cell, but also his 5-year-old son for a sleepover and New York civil rights lawyer William Kunstler for a lavish dinner."

FBI informants in the '60s painted Ouimette's stature such that he was treated as a de facto capodecina by Patriarca, while of course not being an actual member. He clearly had a lot of clout and status and ranked as one of the upper-tier associates, accorded as much respect as possible for someone who was not a made guy, that we see around different Families, like Lansky, Watts, Alex, McIntosh, Rockman, Diez, Michaels, etc.

Tonyd621 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:20 pm I remember this about Ouimettes power back then;

"Ouimette was so powerful in the 1970s that maximum-security guards at the Adult Correctional Institutions delivered not only boxes of smuggled food and alcohol to his cell, but also his 5-year-old son for a sleepover and New York civil rights lawyer William Kunstler for a lavish dinner."

miggy9 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:49 am

JakeTheSnake630 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:44 am

miggy9 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:09 am Still a great photo since we're on the exact topic

Interesting they have Gotti middle initial as F when it was J. Also Redbird was not a made guy let alone a captain. But Gotti def had friends in RI. Didn't Gotti Jr and Patriarca's grandson go to the same military school? Also I know Ouimette's crew was very friendly with John. Even guys like Jerry Tillinghast had a relationship with John. Awesome photo I've never seen this one before!

Redbird was close with John. Allegedly he was one of the guys in the kidnap team that picked up Favara. Yes they were in the same military school. Gerard and Jerry went to see John on numerous occasions. Funny story about Jerry, he was down in the city, and ran into a couple of Gambinos, and John found out and told Gerard. When Jerry returned back to Prov, Gerard told him if you don't go see John next time he's going to block off the whole city til you do lol The Gambino's requested Jerry to be in the city for a little while under them but he refused.

JakeTheSnake630 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:44 am

miggy9 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:09 am Still a great photo since we're on the exact topic

Interesting they have Gotti middle initial as F when it was J. Also Redbird was not a made guy let alone a captain. But Gotti def had friends in RI. Didn't Gotti Jr and Patriarca's grandson go to the same military school? Also I know Ouimette's crew was very friendly with John. Even guys like Jerry Tillinghast had a relationship with John. Awesome photo I've never seen this one before!

Pmac2 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 6:18 pm That really interesting. This guy st laurent really was a huge bookie. He was everywhere. Interesting character especially given his last name is French. I've heard he real dad died young and his mother remarried. I guess he was around ray Sr. And his office alot. He probably got made in 77. Think his uncle was Rudy S. Again he's been labeled as a rat alot it. And the guy did his time like 10yrs then died 2 weeks later when he was released