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Re: Gangland News July 20th 2023

by SonnyBlackstein » Fri Jul 28, 2023 3:19 pm

Ivan wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:48 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:31 pm the Bo's admin
The what's admin?
I'm hoping it'll catch :D

Re: Gangland News July 20th 2023

by Ivan » Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:48 pm

SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:31 pm the Bo's admin
The what's admin?

Re: Gangland News July 20th 2023

by SonnyBlackstein » Thu Jul 27, 2023 9:42 pm

I've got nauseum WG.

Bo's are killing it ;)

Re: Gangland News July 20th 2023

by Wiseguy » Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:36 am

As I've said ad nauseum, you have to look at general trends, over the long term.

Re: Gangland News July 20th 2023

by SonnyBlackstein » Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:02 pm

johnny_scootch wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:13 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:12 pm What my LARGER point, was that having this number of mgmt, ie the whole admin, AND 30-40% of your captains involved, in a singular 10k racket, indicates, TO ME, a likely sign of financial stress. I want to debate that point. How is it not, in your reasoned opinion?
There was only one meeting which they all attended and at that meeting they agreed to keep Russo on as boss until Teddy got out and he would assume the position. This is the real point of the meeting the actual reason they all gathered, at some point during the meeting Ferrara is given responsibility of pilfering at least 10k a month from the benefits fund and kicking it to the administration. I just don’t see where that involves 30-40% of their captains or how it’s a sign of financial distress.

It’s a meeting to decide on bigger issues and one captain was told ‘hey steal this money every month and send it up the ladder’

You’re trying to paint a picture of the entire admin and half their captains meeting for the sole purpose of squabbling over chump change and from available evidence that’s just not what happened. Don’t take it personally all I’m saying is you’ve misread the tea leaves.
My paint brush or yours: Mush, Castellazo, Dematteo, Ferrara, Unions, teddy and Uvino all charged and plead (Mush not, clearly). For a 10k racket.
Either its damn unlucky (30% Capos, 3 were charged, how many do they have..) or don't believe in coincidence.

Its amazing these things happen constantly to the C's. Vs both the G's. That's all I'm saying.

Re: Gangland News July 20th 2023

by Waingro » Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:02 pm

B. wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:44 am There are obvious signs of the mob decline, but there's a tendency to twist everything into that narrative.

"Made guy going to work every day? Unheard of! It's over." (or alternately if it's the Genovese Family they're geniuses)

"Admin members splitting a 10k/month kickback? Pathetic brokesters fighting for pennies. It's over."
I've noticed this one

Guys get busted for street level shit
"Shows you how far that family or LCN in general has fallen when they have to resort to this kind of racket."

Guys get busted for some kind of fraud/white collar crime
"That family is mostly legit nowadays they're not involved in the street anymore ."

Re: Gangland News July 20th 2023

by johnny_scootch » Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:20 pm

B. wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:44 am There are obvious signs of the mob decline, but there's a tendency to twist everything into that narrative.

"Made guy going to work every day? Unheard of! It's over." (or alternately if it's the Genovese Family they're geniuses)

"Admin members splitting a 10k/month kickback? Pathetic brokesters fighting for pennies. It's over."
The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Re: Gangland News July 20th 2023

by B. » Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:44 am

There are obvious signs of the mob decline, but there's a tendency to twist everything into that narrative.

"Made guy going to work every day? Unheard of! It's over." (or alternately if it's the Genovese Family they're geniuses)

"Admin members splitting a 10k/month kickback? Pathetic brokesters fighting for pennies. It's over."

Re: Gangland News July 20th 2023

by johnny_scootch » Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:13 am

SonnyBlackstein wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:12 pm What my LARGER point, was that having this number of mgmt, ie the whole admin, AND 30-40% of your captains involved, in a singular 10k racket, indicates, TO ME, a likely sign of financial stress. I want to debate that point. How is it not, in your reasoned opinion?
There was only one meeting which they all attended and at that meeting they agreed to keep Russo on as boss until Teddy got out and he would assume the position. This is the real point of the meeting the actual reason they all gathered, at some point during the meeting Ferrara is given responsibility of pilfering at least 10k a month from the benefits fund and kicking it to the administration. I just don’t see where that involves 30-40% of their captains or how it’s a sign of financial distress.

It’s a meeting to decide on bigger issues and one captain was told ‘hey steal this money every month and send it up the ladder’

You’re trying to paint a picture of the entire admin and half their captains meeting for the sole purpose of squabbling over chump change and from available evidence that’s just not what happened. Don’t take it personally all I’m saying is you’ve misread the tea leaves.

Re: Gangland News July 20th 2023

by TommyGambino » Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:59 am

SonnyBlackstein wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:13 pm
TommyGambino wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:45 am So they are all broke then, peanuts being kicked up, it’s over
Good argument bud. You got me.
No real argument to be had, sounds like a hands on administration discussing who will oversee a racket, 2,3 grand a month each or whatever it is isn’t really an issue for me. You’ve took a massive leap and claimed the administration is broke and desperate because they are meeting about this one particular racket

Re: Gangland News July 20th 2023

by TommyGambino » Tue Jul 25, 2023 1:39 am

SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:27 am The Bo's flying under the radar as per usual.

Wonder if this was from Ferrara. Seriously concerning if not. This SHOULDVE been a good move, and yet its barely a couple of months and the Feds know the new acting, a relative unknown.

Westside shaking their heads.

Thanks for posting
I bet the Westside were shaking their heads when that weirdo Ed Scarpo reported Michael Ragusa was the street boss 😉

Re: Gangland News July 20th 2023

by B. » Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:49 pm

"A handful of Colombo leaders splitting a 120k a year kickback scheme? I guess that's the last racket they have left and they're fighting for chump change while Barney laughs."

Re: Gangland News July 20th 2023

by SonnyBlackstein » Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:13 pm

TommyGambino wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:45 am So they are all broke then, peanuts being kicked up, it’s over
Good argument bud. You got me.

Re: Gangland News July 20th 2023

by SonnyBlackstein » Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:12 pm

johnny_scootch wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:14 am At the one meeting with the full admin they decide Russo will continue as boss which shows the admin wasn’t gathering to only speak about this Union extortion but also that it was ‘at least 10k a month’. And this ‘10k at least’ was something new they were extorting from the benefits fund and separate from whatever they had been getting for the previous 20 years. Most importantly no signs of anyone fighting or arguing over any of this at all. Maybe there are other articles showing that? I searched and can’t find anything like that.
Johnny, dude, stop. The semantics.
You got me dead to rights. There was no quoted fighting or nit picking. These were Sonny's conclusions. I take them back. There is no evidence of fighting over a single racket.
I want to remove this stupid point as a contention of argument. Cool?

What my LARGER point, was that having this number of mgmt, ie the whole admin, AND 30-40% of your captains involved, in a singular 10k racket, indicates, TO ME, a likely sign of financial stress. I want to debate that point. How is it not, in your reasoned opinion?

So you've won the 'in fighting' argument, can you address the larger point I'm trying to make?

Be better than Tommy and contribute an evidence based supposition vs being a baseless negative.

Re: Gangland News July 20th 2023

by TommyGambino » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:47 am

Has Cacace finished his supervised release, maybe he fills one of the admin spots now

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