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Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

by furiofromnaples » Sun Sep 22, 2024 1:33 am

Wiseguy wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:06 pm Not sure why we are posting a chart from 60 years ago or citing a report from 20 years ago. Which, by the way, dealt with all members living in the state including members from New York crews. Not just those from New Jersey crews. And things appear to have changed significantly.
What I would say is if in the 2004 there are so numerous in the 1964 would be more powerful. Plus the Luccheses and Genoveses crew had more power in the unions respect the DeCavalcantes.

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

by Wiseguy » Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:06 pm

Not sure why we are posting a chart from 60 years ago or citing a report from 20 years ago. Which, by the way, dealt with all members living in the state including members from New York crews. Not just those from New Jersey crews. And things appear to have changed significantly.

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

by scagghiuni » Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:52 am

furiofromnaples wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:06 am
bluehouse wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:18 pm
furiofromnaples wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:11 am
bluehouse wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:14 am Are the decaves the most powerful family outside NY?Also if the luchesse and genevese jersey crew were under the decaves how poweful would the decaves be
The most powerful family out NY is Philadelphia. Even in the old days the Lucchese and Genovese NJ factions was more powerful then the DeCavalcantes.
Dont the decavs have 4 crews while the NJ luchese and genevese are only 1 crew each
decav65.png

In a 2004 report are reported 40 members in Lucchese crew and 50 in Genovese crew.
i thought Lucchese crew had 20 members at its peak

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

by furiofromnaples » Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:06 am

bluehouse wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:18 pm
furiofromnaples wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:11 am
bluehouse wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:14 am Are the decaves the most powerful family outside NY?Also if the luchesse and genevese jersey crew were under the decaves how poweful would the decaves be
The most powerful family out NY is Philadelphia. Even in the old days the Lucchese and Genovese NJ factions was more powerful then the DeCavalcantes.
Dont the decavs have 4 crews while the NJ luchese and genevese are only 1 crew each
decav65.png
In a 2004 report are reported 40 members in Lucchese crew and 50 in Genovese crew.

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

by Pogo The Clown » Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:04 am

Not all crews are created equal. The DeCavalcante Crews have always been paper thin. This has been especially true since the big 1999 and 2000 indictments.


Pogo

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

by bluehouse » Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:18 pm

furiofromnaples wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:11 am
bluehouse wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:14 am Are the decaves the most powerful family outside NY?Also if the luchesse and genevese jersey crew were under the decaves how poweful would the decaves be
The most powerful family out NY is Philadelphia. Even in the old days the Lucchese and Genovese NJ factions was more powerful then the DeCavalcantes.
Dont the decavs have 4 crews while the NJ luchese and genevese are only 1 crew each

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

by furiofromnaples » Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:11 am

bluehouse wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:14 am Are the decaves the most powerful family outside NY?Also if the luchesse and genevese jersey crew were under the decaves how poweful would the decaves be
The most powerful family out NY is Philadelphia. Even in the old days the Lucchese and Genovese NJ factions was more powerful then the DeCavalcantes.

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

by bluehouse » Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:14 am

Are the decaves the most powerful family outside NY?Also if the luchesse and genevese jersey crew were under the decaves how poweful would the decaves be

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

by The Greek » Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:19 am

Massive-Sail wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2024 9:22 am https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/na ... d=55753091
DeCavalcante soldier James “jimmy dirt” Castaldo died
Says he lost a son and his sister is married to a Michael DeSantis.. Lucchese Mike DeSantis?

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

by Massive-Sail » Thu Sep 19, 2024 10:07 pm

Sclafani’s associate Robert Volpe was also associating with Louis Civello

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

by Pogo The Clown » Thu Sep 19, 2024 5:01 pm

B. wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:36 pm Sclafani was also the one who Luigi Oliveri disrespected at the Ribera Club which is one of the reasons Stango was plotting to kill him.

For those interested here the incident in question (from Gatto’s book).

The DeCavs had recently put on a social event in a catering hall, not only for crime family members but also for outside relatives, including dozens of children. Luigi had walked in, full of self-importance, now thinking of himself as a made guy. An old-school gangster named “Tin Ear” Sclafani, a former enforcer for the family who was now past his day, had been sitting with his walking cane when ...


The old man lifted the cane and poked Oliveri in the belly. “Hey Luigi, look at you! You're getting fat like your brother!” (Luigi's brother was an extremely heavy individual, three to four hundred pounds.) Luigi exploded, yelling and cursing, showing no respect for the old mobster in front of his wife and grandchildren and the other old timers sitting nearby. “You fucking old men! You don't know what's going on. Things are changing around here, and you better start fucking respecting me!”

Not surprisingly, members of the incoming Administration were extremely angry about Luigi's behavior. Charlie told me that Big Ears and Milk had visited him at his hotel room and told him about the incident. His reaction had been “The kid's out of control. We've gotta do something about him.” Their response was “Yeah, but there's gotta be a

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

by B. » Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:36 pm

Sclafani was also the one who Luigi Oliveri disrespected at the Ribera Club which is one of the reasons Stango was plotting to kill him.

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

by chin_gigante » Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:34 pm

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Lovaglio's testimony on the meeting Sclafani attended. It was an initial meeting where he was introduced to Merlino for the purposes of doing business in the future.

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

by B. » Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:18 pm

Lovaglio met with Merlino, some other Philly members, and Joe Sclafani of the DeCavalcantes.

Re: How is active the DeCavalcante family?

by Massive-Sail » Thu Sep 19, 2024 4:24 am

B. wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 2:06 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:53 pm
Makaveli wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:21 pm By the way Giovanni recently did a 4 hour Interview and went into the greatest get about the case https://youtu.be/kZAHHpsPzv0?si=6RaXG2pxB8G8DSFn

Some great stuff in this interview. Some new tidbits like Joe Merlo being the UnderBoss and Carl Corsentino and Joe Sclafani being Captains during that period.


Pogo
Yep, great to have that confirmed. I remember speculating that Merlo as "street boss" was actually underboss since nobody was otherwise ID'd in that role and that Sclafani might be a captain given he was meeting with a captain and boss from the Bonannos and Philly.

Corsentino is one I wouldn't have guessed though. Important longtime member but very interesting he was a captain.
what meeting you are talking about?

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