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Re: Gambino Family History help

by Nasabeak » Fri Dec 06, 2024 7:19 pm

OmarSantista wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 1:17 pm
Nasabeak wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 5:35 am Are any Gambino’s of Carlo’s line, Massoto’s, or Castellano’s still involved with Cosa Nostra that we are aware of?
I'm pretty sure some of those cousins that ran cherry hill are still out there, like Rosario Gambino whose son may or may not be in charge of something in LA. The Inzerillo's may be off the mark but are related. Frank Cali is Rosario's nephew. However direct from Carlo's bloodline, Thomas and Joseph just died in the last 4-5 years, not sure about their offspring.
What about the Castellano clan or Castellana’s?

Re: Gambino Family History help

by OmarSantista » Fri Dec 06, 2024 1:17 pm

Nasabeak wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 5:35 am Are any Gambino’s of Carlo’s line, Massoto’s, or Castellano’s still involved with Cosa Nostra that we are aware of?
I'm pretty sure some of those cousins that ran cherry hill are still out there, like Rosario Gambino whose son may or may not be in charge of something in LA. The Inzerillo's may be off the mark but are related. Frank Cali is Rosario's nephew. However direct from Carlo's bloodline, Thomas and Joseph just died in the last 4-5 years, not sure about their offspring.

Re: Gambino Family History help

by Nasabeak » Fri Dec 06, 2024 5:35 am

Are any Gambino’s of Carlo’s line, Massoto’s, or Castellano’s still involved with Cosa Nostra that we are aware of?

Re: Gambino Family History help

by Antiliar » Tue Oct 31, 2023 11:58 am

felice wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:40 am
Antiliar wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:58 am
felice wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:53 am I can't do it online that's why I am not sure about his parents.
I can easily do it next time I go to Palermo.
Glad you can do it in Palermo. While we're on the topic of vital records, would you know if it's possible to confirm a date of death for Nicola Gentile? The FBI has November 6, 1966, but when I asked them for their source they couldn't find anything. He most likely would have died in Siculiana, Realmonte or Raffafali. Another source claims he was still alive in the early 1970s.
when was he born exactly?
June 12, 1885 in Siculiana

Re: Gambino Family History help

by felice » Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:40 am

Antiliar wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:58 am
felice wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:53 am I can't do it online that's why I am not sure about his parents.
I can easily do it next time I go to Palermo.
Glad you can do it in Palermo. While we're on the topic of vital records, would you know if it's possible to confirm a date of death for Nicola Gentile? The FBI has November 6, 1966, but when I asked them for their source they couldn't find anything. He most likely would have died in Siculiana, Realmonte or Raffafali. Another source claims he was still alive in the early 1970s.
when was he born exactly?

Re: Gambino Family History help

by Antiliar » Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:58 am

felice wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:53 am I can't do it online that's why I am not sure about his parents.
I can easily do it next time I go to Palermo.
Glad you can do it in Palermo. While we're on the topic of vital records, would you know if it's possible to confirm a date of death for Nicola Gentile? The FBI has November 6, 1966, but when I asked them for their source they couldn't find anything. He most likely would have died in Siculiana, Realmonte or Raffafali. Another source claims he was still alive in the early 1970s.

Re: Gambino Family History help

by Antiliar » Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:33 am

Regarding the Giammonas, Giuseppe "Joe Gee" Giammona of the Los Angeles Family, if I recall correctly, was the grandson or great-grandson of Antonino Giammona's brother.

Re: Gambino Family History help

by B. » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:32 pm

The ones I've been the most confused about are the two Frank Castellano/Castellanas. This gives me a chance to look back into them.

- The one who was father-in-law of Leo Giammona was also the father of member Pete Castellana and he was born in 1895 and died in 1941. In 1940 his mother-in-law Nancy Masotto was living with him, however her daughter Carmela was originally a Guglielmini as evenced by her marriage record to Frank Castellana and son Alessandro/Alexander's Social Security file.

- Comparing this to what Felice shared, Frank's wife Carmela must have been the daughter of Pietro Guglielmini and Nancy Vella, making her the sister of the Guglielmini brothers who joined the Gambinos. This makes sense as Pete Castellana was the second son and would have been named for Pietro Guglielmini. Carmela's mother Nancy later remarried a Masotto and became the mother of the Masotto brothers who also joined the Gambino Family. So if this is true at least two of Carmela Guglielmini Castellana's full brothers (Guglielmini) were Gambino members and at least two of her half-brothers (Masotto) were members too. It would also mean the Guglielmini and Masotto brothers were half-brothers themselves. With Frank Castellana's mother-in-law originally being a Vella, she's probably a relative of Paul Castellano's grandmother who was also a Vella.

- I incorrectly said earlier that I thought this Frank Castellana was the one identified as an early Gambino captain. The Valachi chart only says Frank Castellano was a previous captain who was deceased. Joe Castellano's brother Frank died in 1959 and their apparent cousin Frank died in 1941. Both continued using the original Castellana spelling of the name. One one hand it seems more likely the Valachi chart refers to Joe's brother since his death was more recent but he was also a decade older so it's not clear if he was still a captain when he died in 1959. One informant makes it more clear as he said the Frank who was a captain was the brother of Benny Castellano, who he said had also been a captain. Benny was the brother of Joe Castellano, so this is in reference to their brother Frank, not the one who married Carmela Guglielmini. However, Joe and Benny's brother Frank was married to Carmela's sister Providenza Guglielmini. The two Frank Castellanas married sisters just to fuck with researchers 100 years later.

- As Felice posted, Joe and Benny's brother Frank lived 1886-1959 and he was the father-in-law of Paolo Gambino. We have the three brothers Joe, Benny, and Frank all identified as captains at various points. One source said Carlo Gambino succeeded his father-in-law Joe Castellano and many of us have believed for years that Frank ran a separate decina anyway. Was Benny part of this succession, did he have his own decina, or is the informant's info accurate? Some have assumed that Paul Castellano took over Frank's crew but did a source ever say that? There is also Carlo Gambino's promotion to consigliere sometime before 1957, so something became of his decina as well and others assume Paul Castellano took this over, but did a source ever say that either? We have Frank's son-in-law Paolo Gambino becoming a captain as well as Paolo and Carlo's brother Giuseppe and later their younger relative(?) Giuseppe in the Bronx. Crew succession is often non-linear and indirect but I'm sure most of these crews in some way can be traced back to Joe and Frank's crews.

- Giuseppe "Joe from the Bronx" Gambino is another question as he's said to have come from Passo di Rigano as a young man but I'm not sure the actual relation to Carlo. People in the Family were told he was related, though. His presence in the Bronx is a reminder that Carlo and Paolo originally lived in the Bronx for years where they were very close to Frank Scalise. Dave Amodeo told the FBI that Frank Scalise and Carlo Gambino's fathers were related. Wonder if that can be substantiated, as Amodeo is a person who would know. Frank Scalise's brother Salvatore told the FBI that his family were next door neighbors of Tommaso Gambino and his sons in Sicily and he grew up knowing them but didn't mention a relation that I'm aware of.

- Another confusing point is that Joe's brother Frank was naturalized under the name "Giuseppe Francesco Castellana". His brother was named Giuseppe but there are examples of two Sicilian sons having the same first name and one going by a middle name so I'm not sure the story. Maybe his true name was Francesco Giuseppe Castellana? Their father was Francesco Paolo Castellana and went by Paolo but that's very common with Sicilians named Francesco Paolo.

- Going back to Giammona's father-in-law Frank, even though he doesn't appear to be the captain mentioned by sources it's pretty clear he was a member. At least four brothers-in-law were members, his son-in-law and son were members, and his cousins were Family leaders. Though some clans were more selective about which relatives they made, the Gambino-Castellano-etc. clan is one of those like the Profaci and Bonanno-Magaddino-Bonventre clan where at one point in their history they made just about every male relative.

Re: Gambino Family History help

by felice » Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:38 am

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I hope it's clear, I had to take a photo of it.
I just put the most important names here, I also have a wider version.
In the next days I will add the new info I got about Leo Giammona and Carlo's first cousins (5 siblings).
One of those cousin, also named Carlo, was a violent member of the Passo di Rigano family.
Considering 4 first cousins are women it will be nice to see which families they got married to.
It will take some time anyway

Re: Gambino Family History help

by felice » Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:53 am

I can't do it online that's why I am not sure about his parents.
I can easily do it next time I go to Palermo.

Re: Gambino Family History help

by Antiliar » Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:48 am

felice wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:06 am According to an investigator of the Iron Tower operation I could speak with, Carlo Gambino and his brothers reached the Usa because their relatives there (Castellano's) were getting rich and and powerful. He was not personally coming from a powerful blood family
Interesting.

Are you able to obtain a copy or at least see the marriage record for Tommaso Gambino and Caterina Castellano? It should have the names of their parents. Unfortunately the Palermo marriage index ends at 1895.

Re: Gambino Family History help

by felice » Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:06 am

According to an investigator of the Iron Tower operation I could speak with, Carlo Gambino and his brothers reached the Usa because their relatives there (Castellano's) were getting rich and and powerful. He was not personally coming from a powerful blood family

Re: Gambino Family History help

by felice » Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:30 am

B. wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:51 pm Carlo's lineage on the chart I posted and Cascio's research both appear to be the correct one, Tommaso being the son of Carlo and a woman named D'Aguanno.

What's interesting is that the chart says Carlo Gambino's brother-in-law Cangelosi's sister was the mother of Antonino, Pietro, Salvatore, and Giuseppe Inzerillo as well as the grandmother of Totuccio Inzerillo. If accurate, Carlo could truly be considered an uncle to the Inzerillo brothers given his sister was married to their blood uncle. Antonino became a Gambino capodecina and Pietro and likely Salvatore were Gambino members (some or all of them likely transferred from Passo di Rigano) but then you have their brother Giuseppe and his son Totuccio who were members in Passo di Rigano, the latter being boss.

Lucchese member Eustachio Giammona's Social Security file indicates his father was Giovanni Giammona and mother was named Felicia. Carlo's sister was married to a Giovanni Giammona but files say Carlo's sister was Giuseppina, whereas Carlo and Giuseppina's mother was a Felicia. Is one of the records inaccurate or was Eustachio not the son of Giuseppina Gambino Giammona? As Felice said, the name Giovanni Giammona is in early Uditore rappresentante Antonino Giammona's lineage, one son being Giovanni. Antonino's other son Giuseppe became rappresentante of Passo di Rigano by the time of the SanGiorgi report.

Paolo Gambino and Eustachio Giammona both married daughters of Frank Castellano/Castellana -- I could be wrong but I believe these were different Franks. Again I am shaky on this, but I believe Paolo married the daughter of his father Joe's brother Frank (Paolo's first cousin) who was married to a Guglielmini while Leo Giammona married the daughter of Joe and Frank's first cousin Frank Castellana, who was the Gambino captain and married to a Masotto. Please correct me if that's inaccurate.

Patsy Conte came to the US when he was still a youth and told the FBI he knew both the Gambino and Castellano/Castellana families growing up in Palermo. A question I have is if Tommaso Gambino's marriage to a Castellano/Castellana was the first relation between them or if it goes back further.
Cangialosi-Gambino is accurate, I wrote this more times, info was also from a court document wrote by Giovanni Falcone. That's why I always thought that Buscetta was referring to him when talking about a Borgo Vecchio family capodecina who was married to Carlo Gambino's sister. Another Cangialosi (sister of Salvatore and Rosa) married Francesco Paolo Crivello (a mafia member). One of this Francesco Crivello's son, Vincenzo was a Passo di Rigano family member. And all the Crivellos from that branch are married to mafia clans, one is the mother of current capomandamento Francesco Buscemi and one is the wife of Tommaso Inzerillo.

Eustacchio Giammona was likely the name of Eustacchio Leo Giammona's (the Lucchese family member) grandfather. That Eustacchio had at least 3 sons, a daughter and Domenico, the third one can be Giovanni (father of Leo).
Gonna post a family tree of Gambino-Castellano branch tonight. But yeah sometimes I also had strong doubts about the Frank Castellano labelled as Peter's father.

Re: Gambino Family History help

by felice » Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:17 am

B. wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:44 pm
felice wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:54 pm That's great! But it doesn't match what the fbi says on its files.
Here's what I was referencing:

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Yes, the chart is right, only mistake is Felicia Castellano's year of birth

Re: Gambino Family History help

by felice » Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:16 am

Antiliar wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:00 pm There's a family tree on Familysearch.org that says Tommaso Gambino was born June 22, 1867, but gives no sources. Says his parents were Carlo Gambino (b 1844) and Rosa D'Aguanno (b 1847), married 5 July 1866 in Palermo, Palermo. Here's the link to the family tree:
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedig ... e/GKFQ-PKY

Justin Cascio put this together: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Gambino-163
I actually found the source, I saw the names on the official Palermo births document. That Carlo was born in 1867 and makes me mind why he didn't have his first kid until he was 35, quite late for that period. That's why I was a bit suspicious plus the FBI states that Carlo's father was 79 years old in 1949 so it makes him born 1975. The file stated that Tommaso and his wife lived in Via Filippo La Mantia, Palermo centro

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