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Re: Crea and Madonna PACER

by Ivan » Sun Mar 12, 2023 10:33 am

I got a court of appeals for you right here pal

Re: Crea and Madonna PACER

by TSNYC » Sun Mar 12, 2023 10:22 am

That joint brief mainly argued that defense didn’t get chance to cross examine Evangelista and pennisi about certain bad acts they hadn’t been notified of. Those typically don’t hold much sway in fed cases, courts usually say it wouldn’t have changed jury verdict

Re: Crea and Madonna PACER

by Little_Al1991 » Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:48 pm

mafiastudent wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:03 am Each of the defendants submitted a brief and then together a joint supplemental brief. (5 total plus appendices) You posted up the joint supplemental brief. This is for an additional brief on behalf of Crea that went over the 14k previously approved word limit. So, Crea has to cut it down.
Do you think that Crea will win his appeal
Interesting information, thank you for sharing

Re: Crea and Madonna PACER

by mafiastudent » Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:03 am

Each of the defendants submitted a brief and then together a joint supplemental brief. (5 total plus appendices) You posted up the joint supplemental brief. This is for an additional brief on behalf of Crea that went over the 14k previously approved word limit. So, Crea has to cut it down.

Re: Crea and Madonna PACER

by Little_Al1991 » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:48 am

Thank you for sharing
The appellate brief was 74 pages

Re: Crea and Madonna PACER

by mafiastudent » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:30 am

Part 2

Re: Crea and Madonna PACER

by mafiastudent » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:30 am

The original motion for "oversized brief"

Re: Crea and Madonna PACER

by mafiastudent » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:14 am

I guess they're going to have to cut out 1703 words....

Re: Crea and Madonna PACER

by Little_Al1991 » Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:05 am

Re: Crea and Madonna PACER

by Ivan » Fri Mar 10, 2023 2:04 am

B. wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:57 am He's educating us about the US Second Circuit Court of Appeals because we know nothing about it.
All you really need to know is that it's the BEST appellate court; everything else is just detail.

Re: Crea and Madonna PACER

by B. » Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:57 am

Ivan wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:55 am
Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:29 am
NYNighthawk wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:07 am The 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals is considered the best appelate court in the Country. They only overturn 1-2% of criminal appeals in the last 75 years.
Why is it considered the best? Because of the low overturn rate? And if that's the case it's subjective is it not?
He's been on this for a while now.
NYNighthawk wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:14 am Sine you're not a lawyer don't make predictions since you know shit! Their appeal would go the US Second Circuit Court of Appeals which you know nothing about. This Court is the most prestigious of all Federal Appeals Courts. They affirm 98% of all appeals they hear - civil and criminal. So don't make any more predicitions you dickhead!
He's educating us about the US Second Circuit Court of Appeals because we know nothing about it.

Re: Crea and Madonna PACER

by Ivan » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:00 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:48 pm Lol what is his deal with the 2nd Circuit?
it's the BEST court of appeals

Re: Crea and Madonna PACER

by Little_Al1991 » Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:00 pm

newera_212 wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:54 pm
Ivan wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:55 am
Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:29 am
NYNighthawk wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:07 am The 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals is considered the best appelate court in the Country. They only overturn 1-2% of criminal appeals in the last 75 years.
Why is it considered the best? Because of the low overturn rate? And if that's the case it's subjective is it not?
He's been on this for a while now.
NYNighthawk wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:14 am Sine you're not a lawyer don't make predictions since you know shit! Their appeal would go the US Second Circuit Court of Appeals which you know nothing about. This Court is the most prestigious of all Federal Appeals Courts. They affirm 98% of all appeals they hear - civil and criminal. So don't make any more predicitions you dickhead!
and here I was, ready to come into this thread to say I think that Crea, et. al. will fall into the 2% .

I don't know if I want to make that prediction anymore
That is quite a big prediction but I highly doubt it. Crea’s son seems optimistic

Re: Crea and Madonna PACER

by Tonyd621 » Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:51 pm

PolackTony wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:59 pm
newera_212 wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:54 pm
Ivan wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:55 am
Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:29 am
NYNighthawk wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:07 am The 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals is considered the best appelate court in the Country. They only overturn 1-2% of criminal appeals in the last 75 years.
Why is it considered the best? Because of the low overturn rate? And if that's the case it's subjective is it not?
He's been on this for a while now.
NYNighthawk wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:14 am Sine you're not a lawyer don't make predictions since you know shit! Their appeal would go the US Second Circuit Court of Appeals which you know nothing about. This Court is the most prestigious of all Federal Appeals Courts. They affirm 98% of all appeals they hear - civil and criminal. So don't make any more predicitions you dickhead!
and here I was, ready to come into this thread to say I think that Crea, et. al. will fall into the 2% .

I don't know if I want to make that prediction anymore
It’s preferable to remain cautious and not run the risk of being a dickhead.
Actually the appeals court of west Virginia is rated the best from what I just read

Re: Crea and Madonna PACER

by Tonyd621 » Thu Mar 09, 2023 3:48 pm

Lol what is his deal with the 2nd Circuit?

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