THE BLACK HAND FORUM

FriendofHenry wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:22 am

stubbs wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:23 pm Great thread! Interesting one of those newspaper articles on the first page has Carmen Policy mentioned as one of their lawyers. And a different article is about the developer Ed DeBartolo.

Ed DeBartolo’s son Ed Junior was the 49ers owner for several decades, during when they won five super bowls. Carmen Policy was his right hand man running the Niners back then. DeBartolo eventually was forced to give up his ownership of the team after he tried to bribe the governor of Louisiana for a casino license (if memory serves me correctly). He turned the team over to his sister Denise York, and now his nephew, Denise’s son, Jed York runs the team.

Policy eventually left the Niners to run the Cleveland Browns when they came back into the league for the 99 season. But eventually he either quit or got fired as the team was pretty bad.

I don’t know if Ed Senior was mobbed up when they were in Youngstown, does anyone know that history? I just know the football stuff.

I knew Ed Sr. and Jr. well. Both knew the local "guys" but certainly not mobbed up with any of them.

FriendofHenry wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:22 am

stubbs wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:23 pm Great thread! Interesting one of those newspaper articles on the first page has Carmen Policy mentioned as one of their lawyers. And a different article is about the developer Ed DeBartolo.

Ed DeBartolo’s son Ed Junior was the 49ers owner for several decades, during when they won five super bowls. Carmen Policy was his right hand man running the Niners back then. DeBartolo eventually was forced to give up his ownership of the team after he tried to bribe the governor of Louisiana for a casino license (if memory serves me correctly). He turned the team over to his sister Denise York, and now his nephew, Denise’s son, Jed York runs the team.

Policy eventually left the Niners to run the Cleveland Browns when they came back into the league for the 99 season. But eventually he either quit or got fired as the team was pretty bad.

I don’t know if Ed Senior was mobbed up when they were in Youngstown, does anyone know that history? I just know the football stuff.

I knew Ed Sr. and Jr. well. Both knew the local "guys" but certainly not mobbed up with any of them.

stubbs wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:23 pm Great thread! Interesting one of those newspaper articles on the first page has Carmen Policy mentioned as one of their lawyers. And a different article is about the developer Ed DeBartolo.

Ed DeBartolo’s son Ed Junior was the 49ers owner for several decades, during when they won five super bowls. Carmen Policy was his right hand man running the Niners back then. DeBartolo eventually was forced to give up his ownership of the team after he tried to bribe the governor of Louisiana for a casino license (if memory serves me correctly). He turned the team over to his sister Denise York, and now his nephew, Denise’s son, Jed York runs the team.

Policy eventually left the Niners to run the Cleveland Browns when they came back into the league for the 99 season. But eventually he either quit or got fired as the team was pretty bad.

I don’t know if Ed Senior was mobbed up when they were in Youngstown, does anyone know that history? I just know the football stuff.

Antiliar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:57 am

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:31 am Lonardo gives interview at 90 years old...Funny story, after I graduated from college, my best friend moved to Gates Mills in Cleveland and lived in an apartment building...every day, he would speak to his elderly neighbor about the Cleveland Indians...I met this guy several times while visiting my buddy and we spent an afternoon on his back patio one evening talking about baseball. I was gambling at the time and put some money on the Indians and this guy gave me a lecture about gambling and what it does to people. I had no fucking clue it was Angelo Lonardo until after he passed away. He and his wife were estranged but not divorced.

https://www.facebook.com/RealCrimeChann ... 306451697/

I almost interviewed him. It was a missed opportunity. I arranged it through his grandnephew but then he told me Angelo wanted $500 for it. By the time I got the money he was very sick and was unable to give any interviews, and he passed away shortly after that.

Antiliar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:57 am

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:31 am Lonardo gives interview at 90 years old...Funny story, after I graduated from college, my best friend moved to Gates Mills in Cleveland and lived in an apartment building...every day, he would speak to his elderly neighbor about the Cleveland Indians...I met this guy several times while visiting my buddy and we spent an afternoon on his back patio one evening talking about baseball. I was gambling at the time and put some money on the Indians and this guy gave me a lecture about gambling and what it does to people. I had no fucking clue it was Angelo Lonardo until after he passed away. He and his wife were estranged but not divorced.

https://www.facebook.com/RealCrimeChann ... 306451697/

I almost interviewed him. It was a missed opportunity. I arranged it through his grandnephew but then he told me Angelo wanted $500 for it. By the time I got the money he was very sick and was unable to give any interviews, and he passed away shortly after that.

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:31 am Lonardo gives interview at 90 years old...Funny story, after I graduated from college, my best friend moved to Gates Mills in Cleveland and lived in an apartment building...every day, he would speak to his elderly neighbor about the Cleveland Indians...I met this guy several times while visiting my buddy and we spent an afternoon on his back patio one evening talking about baseball. I was gambling at the time and put some money on the Indians and this guy gave me a lecture about gambling and what it does to people. I had no fucking clue it was Angelo Lonardo until after he passed away. He and his wife were estranged but not divorced.

https://www.facebook.com/RealCrimeChann ... 306451697/

davidf1989 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:46 am Wasn't Angelo Lonardo the underboss to Jack Licavoli when the Cleveland family was fighting Greene and Nardi?

JCB1977 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:05 pm

NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:27 pm I don't think Lonardo was the death nail of the midwest mob families but he was very instrumental in breaking their stranglehold on the Teamsters - and that was arguably their largest income stream - especially some of these smaller families. I believe he was the first one who really detailed the Glick loan, the Presser family and how the money was being divided. Maybe that would suffice to say he broke their back financially. The whole thing came crashing down on a lot of his testimony and information.

Never did I say “Midwest” families. He certainly broke Cleveland into pieces…they never recovered. Their membership was weakened. He was in this thing from the beginning and Cleveland was one of the strongest families in the entire country going back to the old days, they were a nationally known syndicate with some of the most powerful mobsters in the country. Let alone the Mayfield Road Mob/Jewish Syndicate. He knew a lot and had relationships all over the country. I believe either Jackie Cerone or Joey Doves in Chicago were affected by his testimony. His most damage was done to Cleveland and you are 100%, correct, put a stranglehold on their stream of income from the unions.

NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:27 pm I don't think Lonardo was the death nail of the midwest mob families but he was very instrumental in breaking their stranglehold on the Teamsters - and that was arguably their largest income stream - especially some of these smaller families. I believe he was the first one who really detailed the Glick loan, the Presser family and how the money was being divided. Maybe that would suffice to say he broke their back financially. The whole thing came crashing down on a lot of his testimony and information.