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Re: Upcoming indictment against the current Lucchese Family Acting Boss

by UTC » Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:57 pm

UTC wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:56 pm
UTC wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:53 pm
CornerBoy wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:19 am Completely agree on the cartels, whether designated terrorists or just foreign invaders. Yes you could greatly suppress the drug trade with tactics totally unlike what was done with booze, just like you could bring crime in Chicago to a minimum with brutal methods, but Americans don't have the stomach for it.
This is interesting lens you see this through. Care to elucidate? Like ideal scenario you hve in mind but not a 30K foot view but rather a more granular delineation. Thanks, UTC. to me it doesn't seem possible, but what the fuck do I know. i have limited and poor intelligence.

You seem to be pragmatic and accomplished so I'm very interested. How could we invade Chicago? Thanks, man
This is not going to happen obviously, but you'd have to militarily occupy large parts of Chicago, seek the support of citizenry who are in effect imprisoned in their homes right now, and search and kill those in the drug trade, accepting that there will be mistakes. And track down and kill gang members regardless of what they are doing. That's the only way I could see doing it. Needless to say it's not going to happen. At the same time, I would occupy large portion of LA and kill every real and REPUTED gang member. Vicious storm trooper tactics.
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Re: Upcoming indictment against the current Lucchese Family Acting Boss

by UTC » Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:56 pm

UTC wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:53 pm
CornerBoy wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:19 am Completely agree on the cartels, whether designated terrorists or just foreign invaders. Yes you could greatly suppress the drug trade with tactics totally unlike what was done with booze, just like you could bring crime in Chicago to a minimum with brutal methods, but Americans don't have the stomach for it.
This is interesting lens you see this through. Care to elucidate? Like ideal scenario you hve in mind but not a 30K foot view but rather a more granular delineation. Thanks, UTC. to me it doesn't seem possible, but what the fuck do I know. i have limited and poor intelligence.

You seem to be pragmatic and accomplished so I'm very interested. How could we invade Chicago? Thanks, man
This is not going to happen obviously, but you'd have to militarily occupy large parts of Chicago, seek the support of citizenry who are in effect imprisoned in their homes right now, and search and kill those in the drug trade, accepting that there will be mistakes. And track down and kill gang members regardless of what they are doing. That's the only way I could see doing it. Needless to say it's not going to happen. At the same time, I would occupy large portion of LA and kill every real and REPUTED gang member.

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Re: Upcoming indictment against the current Lucchese Family Acting Boss

by UTC » Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:53 pm

CornerBoy wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:19 am Completely agree on the cartels, whether designated terrorists or just foreign invaders. Yes you could greatly suppress the drug trade with tactics totally unlike what was done with booze, just like you could bring crime in Chicago to a minimum with brutal methods, but Americans don't have the stomach for it.
This is interesting lens you see this through. Care to elucidate? Like ideal scenario you hve in mind but not a 30K foot view but rather a more granular delineation. Thanks, UTC. to me it doesn't seem possible, but what the fuck do I know. i have limited and poor intelligence.

You seem to be pragmatic and accomplished so I'm very interested. How could we invade Chicago? Thanks, man
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This is not going to happen obviously, but you'd have to militarily occupy large parts of Chicago, seek the support of citizenry who are in effect imprisoned in their homes right now, and search and kill those in the drug trade, accepting that there will be mistakes. And track down and kill gang members regardless of what they are doing. That's the only way I could see doing it. Needless to say it's not going to happen.

Re: Upcoming indictment against the current Lucchese Family Acting Boss

by Cheech » Fri Jan 20, 2023 7:34 am

johnny_scootch wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:39 am
Cheech wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:49 am
Wiseguy wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:06 pm
TSNYC wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:00 pm Is Mario Garafola made?

Him and his wife were charged. Assuming it’s the same Mario whose the son of Eddie Garafola (from this old case: https://nypost.com/2004/09/16/mob-mta-s ... -job-feds/ )
It's the same guy, I believe. I've never seen him identified as made.
GL has him as made this week
I didn’t even see Mario mentioned at all in this weeks Gangland.
Ahhh. Confused it w astuto

Re: Upcoming indictment against the current Lucchese Family Acting Boss

by johnny_scootch » Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:39 am

Cheech wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:49 am
Wiseguy wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:06 pm
TSNYC wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:00 pm Is Mario Garafola made?

Him and his wife were charged. Assuming it’s the same Mario whose the son of Eddie Garafola (from this old case: https://nypost.com/2004/09/16/mob-mta-s ... -job-feds/ )
It's the same guy, I believe. I've never seen him identified as made.
GL has him as made this week
I didn’t even see Mario mentioned at all in this weeks Gangland.

Re: Upcoming indictment against the current Lucchese Family Acting Boss

by Cheech » Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:49 am

Wiseguy wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:06 pm
TSNYC wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:00 pm Is Mario Garafola made?

Him and his wife were charged. Assuming it’s the same Mario whose the son of Eddie Garafola (from this old case: https://nypost.com/2004/09/16/mob-mta-s ... -job-feds/ )
It's the same guy, I believe. I've never seen him identified as made.
GL has him as made this week

Re: Upcoming indictment against the current Lucchese Family Acting Boss

by CornerBoy » Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:19 am

Completely agree on the cartels, whether designated terrorists or just foreign invaders. Yes you could greatly suppress the drug trade with tactics totally unlike what was done with booze, just like you could bring crime in Chicago to a minimum with brutal methods, but Americans don't have the stomach for it.
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This is interesting lens you see this through. Care to elucidate? Like ideal scenario you hve in mind but not a 30K foot view but rather a more granular delineation. Thanks, UTC. to me it doesn't seem possible, but what the fuck do I know. i have limited and poor intelligence.

You seem to be pragmatic and accomplished so I'm very interested. How could we invade Chicago? Thanks, man

Re: Upcoming indictment against the current Lucchese Family Acting Boss

by CornerBoy » Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:11 am

utc, agreed on that last point

Germans are great to work with- i was just in Zurich where there are tons of Germans and they are straightforward, hardworking and no bullshit w them

Re: Upcoming indictment against the current Lucchese Family Acting Boss

by UTC » Wed Jan 18, 2023 7:37 pm

In terms of the health cost discussion, to compare the Scandinavian countries to the U.S. in anything is absurd. Give me 350,000,000 health conscious highly educated highly exercised Norwegians with a Germanic work ethic and homogeneous cultural values and I'll show you what can happen here. Comparing such a group in a country smaller than Rhode Island is ridiculous.

Re: Upcoming indictment against the current Lucchese Family Acting Boss

by TommyNoto » Wed Jan 18, 2023 7:35 pm

Tonyd621 wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 6:19 pm They should get off easy like everyone in NY does these days
Hard to see jail for non violent corporate honest service charges, not with today’s jury lol

best time to be a wise guy , they lost their power but are still making big $ with almost no threat of jail time or getting hit. With gambling n weed you can carry your biz out in the open with no worries (in NJ at least)

LE is goin after their successful businesses as that’s about the best they can do today , bust em out.

They have a hard on for CC of westside. I wonder how Sal Demeos $1M+ Investment in RCI plumbing is going as I think they are closed, ouch

Re: Upcoming indictment against the current Lucchese Family Acting Boss

by UTC » Wed Jan 18, 2023 7:22 pm

Wiseguy wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:23 pm
CornerBoy wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:59 pmLEgalize it all and it will eradicate most of the violent crime in this country, period
Alcohol and tobacco do more damage to society, in all its forms, than all the illegal drugs combined precisely because they're legal. But yeah, let's legalize heroin, cocaine, meth, fentanyl, etc :roll:

It's bad enough marijuana is being legalized. Because that's really what society needs, more potheads walking around. :roll: :roll:
CornerBoy wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:03 pmThats a bullshit platitude. what do you mean exactly?
Designate the Mexican cartels as terrorist organizations and use the US military to wipe them out. Would be money much better spent than unchecked billions going to Ukraine.

Domestically, while I'd be fine executing drug traffickers, putting them away for 50 years on their first offense would be good enough. Violent or not is irrelevant. They're all purveyors of poison.
Completely agree on the cartels, whether designated terrorists or just foreign invaders. Yes you could greatly suppress the drug trade with tactics totally unlike what was done with booze, just like you could bring crime in Chicago to a minimum with brutal methods, but Americans don't have the stomach for it.

Re: Upcoming indictment against the current Lucchese Family Acting Boss

by Tonyd621 » Wed Jan 18, 2023 6:19 pm

They should get off easy like everyone in NY does these days

Re: Upcoming indictment against the current Lucchese Family Acting Boss

by Wiseguy » Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:06 pm

TSNYC wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:00 pm Is Mario Garafola made?

Him and his wife were charged. Assuming it’s the same Mario whose the son of Eddie Garafola (from this old case: https://nypost.com/2004/09/16/mob-mta-s ... -job-feds/ )
It's the same guy, I believe. I've never seen him identified as made.

Re: Upcoming indictment against the current Lucchese Family Acting Boss

by TSNYC » Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:00 pm

Is Mario Garafola made?

Him and his wife were charged. Assuming it’s the same Mario whose the son of Eddie Garafola (from this old case: https://nypost.com/2004/09/16/mob-mta-s ... -job-feds/ )

Re: Upcoming indictment against the current Lucchese Family Acting Boss

by OcSleeper » Wed Jan 18, 2023 3:48 pm

JohnnyS wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 3:39 pm It will be interesting to see who the made guys are. Pretty sure Louis Petrocelli is made. Capeci described him as a wiseguy in a 2020 GL article. Astuto was identified as a 'Camuso crew member' so he could be made too. Noto is an associate.
Edit:
Never mind went back and read the GL. Looks like a few names mentioned in GL weren't indicted today.

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