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Re: Help - The Anastasia-wanted-to-recruit-from-Italy FBI file.

by Angelo Santino » Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:36 pm

When I can't find something I start to believe that I imagined it.

Re: Help - The Anastasia-wanted-to-recruit-from-Italy FBI file.

by B. » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:22 am

Anastasia likely represented Philly on the Commission between 1951-1956 when Joe Ida was given a seat on the Commission himself. Informants knew that Ida answered to Anastasia.

Re: Help - The Anastasia-wanted-to-recruit-from-Italy FBI file.

by antimafia » Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:47 pm

Here are two links about Ida wanting to set up a regime:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 2Reggio%22

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 2Reggio%22

Haven’t searched that site for Anastasia’s plan yet.

Edited to add: The links to the Mary Ferrell site are to particular pages in two separate files, but the relevant paragraphs concerning Ida are the same.

Re: Help - The Anastasia-wanted-to-recruit-from-Italy FBI file.

by B. » Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:06 pm

I'm only aware of what I referenced there, that Joe Ida wanted to form a Philly decina in Reggio Calabria by recruiting locals when he was living there. Bruno told him he'd have to get approval from the Sicilian mafia.

Re: Help - The Anastasia-wanted-to-recruit-from-Italy FBI file.

by antimafia » Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:02 pm

You had previously asked B. in the older "Double Affiliation" thread whether he knew where to find a particular document you were already familiar with. Below are some links and quoted post excerpts that might jog your memory and B.’s.; the links are to pages in the thread, not to specific posts.

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Angelo Santino wrote: Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:20 pm Drawing back to Canada, I'm largely ignorant, but there's a good chance ties were severed for two or three decades before being reintroduced. Violi may not have known the entire history behind Italy's Mafias since they have just.

We know that Sicilians were able to transfer with ease into the AM, the same cannot be said for the mainland groups, Furio Giunta being the exception ;) . There's a report that claims Anastasia was trying to allow Calabrians to "transfer" into the AM as well. It's vague but there could be something to that. Since by this time it was considered Cosa Nostra and not an exclusive Sicilian brotherhood it would make sense that if Sicilian mafiosi could be accepted then why not Calabrian 'ndranghetisti. Just a thought.
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B. wrote: Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:36 pm [snip]I can't pull up the doc right now, but there are a couple files on MF that reference Joe Ida looking to create a Philly family decina in Italy. The Anastasia thing might have come up in one of the same transcripts, like Bruno and Magliocco's meeting, but I can't remember offhand. Will try to look for it soon. Also, haha at "N word"...

Help - The Anastasia-wanted-to-recruit-from-Italy FBI file.

by Angelo Santino » Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:51 am

I've been looking since yesterday on MF, doing multiple searches and I can't locate it. I thought it was mentioned in reference to Joe Ida/Philly but no results are coming up either. Does anyone know what I'm referring to and can you link me to it?

Grazie.

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