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Re: Best Deal

by Adam » Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:37 pm

Jimmy Fratianno. A bunch of murders. They had him dead to rights in three different cases. The mob was about to kill him. He walks, gets one of the first big book deals and puts away the people he thought betrayed him.

Re: Best Deal

by DonPeppino386 » Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:54 am

furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:00 am Giovanni Brusca a mafioso that killed over 150 people including a kid and the judge Falcone after 25 years is free. More or less 2 months for every murder,a good deal.
Yeah, this one should get mentioned more TBH.

Re: Best Deal

by JakeTheSnake630 » Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:10 am

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:32 am
Hired_Goonz wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:08 am I think Vito Rizzuto would be a candidate for this as well.
Agree. Good pick up.


Surprised nobody's said Gravano.
Killed 19 guys and did 2 or 3 years. What beats that?
That's it? I thought he did like 6 years. That was a crazy deal, especially when the gov't didn't even need him to convict Gotti. Martorano's deal was crazy too imo because the bodies he confessed to he personally killed unlike sammy. Out of the 19 bodies Sammy only personally killed like 2 right?

Re: Best Deal

by SonnyBlackstein » Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:32 am

Hired_Goonz wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:08 am I think Vito Rizzuto would be a candidate for this as well.
Agree. Good pick up.


Surprised nobody's said Gravano.
Killed 19 guys and did 2 or 3 years. What beats that?

Re: Best Deal

by Hired_Goonz » Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:08 am

newera_212 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:25 pm

If you want to talk about best DEAL in general - cooperator or non cooperator - the Lucchese global plea that had people like Frank Lastorino, Frank Papagni, Gorge Conte, George Zappola, et. al. see the light of day again ... that's probably one of the best deals known to man.
I think Vito Rizzuto would be a candidate for this as well. They had him as the last guy holding the bag for an infamous triple murder which nobody else did any real time for. They had Vitale and Massino putting him in as a shooter and they had a surveillance pic of him at a motel in the area meeting with Massino and Sciascia the morning after. And the feds give him a deal where he'll be home in 5 years?? The judge was so shocked he made a big show out of threatening to not go along with it.

A counterpoint could be that the feds were never gonna put Massino on the stand for Vito, they were saving him for Basciano exclusively so they had a little less leverage than at first glance. But they still had Vitale (one of the most devastating LCN witnesses of all time) and that picture and we've seen mob guys get convicted on a hell of a lot less than that. All I'm saying is you would think the DOJ could have driven a harder bargain - he ends up doing 8 years for a triple murder RICO? Vito either got really really lucky or maybe he gave some kind of cooperation on the down low.

Re: Best Deal

by Teflon Dom » Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:22 pm

Scarpa, Bulger, Leonetti, Gravanao, Dileonardo and one or two tiers under that loaded with rats

Re: Best Deal

by FriendofHenry » Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:20 am

CornerBoy BTW: Lenny wasn't the last Pittsburgh member to go. Sonny Ciancutti checked-out July 13, 2021 and Lenny May 20, 2021.

Re: Best Deal

by FriendofHenry » Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:20 am

CornerBoy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:17 am I don't remember the exact details of that guy's story but it was pretty wild what happened and if I'm not mistaken the guys on here who live there said Strollo lives there openly.

He had a prosecutor shot and a couple other people killed and only served like 10 years. They let him keep all his money (it was over $10 million) and he lived openly in Campbell, Ohio (Youngstown area town).

He died last year. Last Pittsburgh member to go.


unreal. 10 million and conspired to whack prosecutor? the ten mill can't be from rackets? more likely real estate bought many yrs ago if i had to guess.
Lenny was a scumbag Rat bastard that gave up his life long friend, Bernie Ashler aka. Bernie the Jew, for caring out his order to kill Ernie Biondillo.
That led to Michael sending Henry to Youngstown to keep Lenny on the rails. Lenny's deal with the Feds allowed him to keep his $10 million and live in a luxury condo in Canfield Ohio. The bulk of Lenny's money came from the All-American Club in Campbell, Ohio. It reportedly produced $22 million annually and was run by Lenny's "close friend", Bernie.

Re: Best Deal

by JakeTheSnake630 » Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:04 am

Thanks for all the input guys!

Re: Best Deal

by JakeTheSnake630 » Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:02 am

Hired_Goonz wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:48 pm Salemme got a hell of a deal as well. Only did a few years and only had to cop to a handful of murders from 30 years prior, just as if bodies hadn't been dropping in Boston all through the late 80s and early 90s. Didn't work out too great for him in the end though but he only has himself to blame for that.

I read on here about a guy from Youngstown OH who I guess ran the Pittsburgh family's crew out there who got a short sentence when he flipped but also was allowed to keep millions of dollars. I don't remember the name or all the real details but I remember being shocked that he got such a sweetheart deal.
That's right I forgot about his deal, Salemme really screwed himself.

Re: Best Deal

by JakeTheSnake630 » Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:02 am

B. wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:06 pm Massino. He was the end of the food chain and cooperated to escape the death penalty + family asset seizure but ended up getting released. Didn't even do much time all things considered and only had to testify once.

I've wondered if they gave Massino such a big break to encourage other bosses to cooperate in the future.
Yea that's a great example and really the only example of its kind because he was the top of the food chain like you said

Re: Best Deal

by JakeTheSnake630 » Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:01 am

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:26 pm Scarpa.
Should Scarpa count though since he was cooperating while he was active? That would be like including Bulger. I was just talking about those who cooperated after they were convicted or indicted. Joe Massino is another one I should have included.

Re: Best Deal

by CornerBoy » Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:17 am

I don't remember the exact details of that guy's story but it was pretty wild what happened and if I'm not mistaken the guys on here who live there said Strollo lives there openly.

He had a prosecutor shot and a couple other people killed and only served like 10 years. They let him keep all his money (it was over $10 million) and he lived openly in Campbell, Ohio (Youngstown area town).

He died last year. Last Pittsburgh member to go.


unreal. 10 million and conspired to whack prosecutor? the ten mill can't be from rackets? more likely real estate bought many yrs ago if i had to guess.

Re: Best Deal

by Ivan » Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:35 am

Hired_Goonz wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:05 pm I don't remember the exact details of that guy's story but it was pretty wild what happened and if I'm not mistaken the guys on here who live there said Strollo lives there openly.
He had a prosecutor shot and a couple other people killed and only served like 10 years. They let him keep all his money (it was over $10 million) and he lived openly in Campbell, Ohio (Youngstown area town).

He died last year. Last Pittsburgh member to go.

Re: Best Deal

by furiofromnaples » Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:00 am

Giovanni Brusca a mafioso that killed over 150 people including a kid and the judge Falcone after 25 years is free. More or less 2 months for every murder,a good deal.

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