THE BLACK HAND FORUM

JoeCamel wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:48 am

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:05 am I heard it on the street.


Pogo

That’s right Pogo getting down with the fresh street talk

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:05 am I heard it on the street.


Pogo

Ivan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:38 pm So they're roughly the same size as Philly? Thought they were down to like a dozen. They're much less active than Philly though right?

Snakes wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:50 am

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:44 am

bluehouse wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:28 pm So the colombos are bigger than the luchese and bonnano family

Keep in mind that list is 30 years ago. Also, the Colombos, Bonannos, and Luccheses have fluctuated through the years with their size, thereby alternating who was #3, 4, and 5 in size at any given time. In more recent years, the Colombos have been the smallest in NY.

FBI also had a "member source" in the Colombos for decades (Scarpa) while the Bonannos didn't have a member publicly cooperate until 2002 (Coppa). Also important to note that the Genovese have never had an administration member cooperate while the other four NYC families have. Generally -- but not always -- administration members have a better handle on the amount and identity of made members.

JoeCamel wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:40 amI’m talking the probation list. If you look at it, it goes confirmed Boston made members (with the possible exception of Costa, prochilo sr, and Richard costa) then providence made members, then his gambling codefendants, then other associates. Read the list, logic dictates that this is how the government/state of MA organized it given who is on this list and who know to be made.

Also I included Lee Rizzo because Pogo identified him as a made member.

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:44 am

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:04 am

JoeCamel wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:31 pm Before anyone jumps on me for including Costa as a confirmed guy, he’s on Limones list included with the section of Boston Made Members which is them followed by all Providence Made Members which is then followed by associates from both locales. Same with Prochilo Sr.

Are you referring to the 2010 Probation list or this a separate list? I ask becaus the probation list also included associate and didn't differentiate between m hers and associates or Boston and Providence. Thanks.


Pogo

Yeah, a lot of names on that list but no specifics regarding who was made. That would include Costa, Prochilo Sr. and Rizzo.

bluehouse wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:28 pm So the colombos are bigger than the luchese and bonnano family

Keep in mind that list is 30 years ago. Also, the Colombos, Bonannos, and Luccheses have fluctuated through the years with their size, thereby alternating who was #3, 4, and 5 in size at any given time. In more recent years, the Colombos have been the smallest in NY.

Who had less to work with than me? [...] When I first went to jail, I had nobody. Think about it, when I went in in ‘87, I had nobody. We just made Sal, we just made all the Louies, we just straightened guys out. We had nobody, we didn't make nobody for six years.

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:44 am

bluehouse wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:28 pm So the colombos are bigger than the luchese and bonnano family

Keep in mind that list is 30 years ago. Also, the Colombos, Bonannos, and Luccheses have fluctuated through the years with their size, thereby alternating who was #3, 4, and 5 in size at any given time. In more recent years, the Colombos have been the smallest in NY.