by PolackTony » Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:09 pm
Ivan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:54 pm
PolackTony wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:33 pm
Graham IMO would absolutely work as Scarfo. Right stature and does a great job of portraying a guy with a violent undercurrent bubbling beneath the surface at all times. Just gotta make sure he can do a good “Phuluhduhlfiuh ayccent”.
"tenk gawd fer duh Murrican jurreh systuhm"
He does an acceptable New Joisey accent in that clip so I think he'd do a great job. I can't think of anyone better for Scarfo.
I liked his performance as Al Capone somewhat but I couldn't buy it visually as he was just too fucking short. But for Scarfo? His height would be an asset!
That scene is hilarious by the way. "You people?! YOU PEOPLE?!?!"
They need a real emphasis on voice/accent coaching to really make these things work. If they make a serious movie about the Phully mob and everyone sounds like they just walked out of a deli in Bensonhurst, it would be a huge waste of opportunity. Major part of the authenticity of capturing the feel of a place or character is lost there. People think they can convey “mob/Italian” by having a New Yawk accent. It’s cheap and inauthentic. Imagine if Departed was full of actors sounding like they just flew in from Queens. This was my major gripe with Casino. Points to Pesci — while he wasn’t convincing, he at least really tried. DeNiro and Frank Vincent made no effort at all and it infuriates me every time I watch. Not to mention Frank Vincent in the atrocious “Chicago Typewriter” schlock (“Can you believe the BAWLDS on these guys from the Cicero crew??”).
Graham as Capone wasn’t bad, exactly, as he’s a good actor. But apart from the stature thing, he played Capone too “nutty”. Need someone who can capture the charismatic mix of jolly and menacing that I think would really characterize Capone.
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He's actually British but I want Stephen Graham as Nicky Scarfo. What do you guys think? At 5 foot 5 he's even the right height. Observe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9TsMA46Eww
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Graham IMO would absolutely work as Scarfo. Right stature and does a great job of portraying a guy with a violent undercurrent bubbling beneath the surface at all times. Just gotta make sure he can do a good “Phuluhduhlfiuh ayccent”.
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"tenk gawd fer duh Murrican jurreh systuhm"
He does an acceptable New Joisey accent in that clip so I think he'd do a great job. I can't think of anyone better for Scarfo.
I liked his performance as Al Capone somewhat but I couldn't buy it visually as he was just too fucking short. But for Scarfo? His height would be an asset!
That scene is hilarious by the way. "You people?! YOU PEOPLE?!?!" :lol:
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They need a real emphasis on voice/accent coaching to really make these things work. If they make a serious movie about the Phully mob and everyone sounds like they just walked out of a deli in Bensonhurst, it would be a huge waste of opportunity. Major part of the authenticity of capturing the feel of a place or character is lost there. People think they can convey “mob/Italian” by having a New Yawk accent. It’s cheap and inauthentic. Imagine if Departed was full of actors sounding like they just flew in from Queens. This was my major gripe with Casino. Points to Pesci — while he wasn’t convincing, he at least really tried. DeNiro and Frank Vincent made no effort at all and it infuriates me every time I watch. Not to mention Frank Vincent in the atrocious “Chicago Typewriter” schlock (“Can you believe the BAWLDS on these guys from the Cicero crew??”).
Graham as Capone wasn’t bad, exactly, as he’s a good actor. But apart from the stature thing, he played Capone too “nutty”. Need someone who can capture the charismatic mix of jolly and menacing that I think would really characterize Capone.