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Re: Gene Gotti

by SonnyBlackstein » Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:50 pm

newera_212 wrote: Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:21 am Not saying Gene spending like 30% of his life in Prison was a good, beneficial thing for him - but realistically if he was able to get a sweet deal at the time and took it, and did his 87% and came home...he most likely would have gotten caught up and indicted again in something else.
If he had taken the deal he almost certainly would've been boss. He would've come out around when junior was going away and would've taken it over Peter.

After that who knows but he likely would still be boss and getting a kick, free or not.

Re: Gene Gotti

by Dave65827 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:34 pm

I seriously don’t see him doing anything else. Like someone said the mobs still around but it ain’t like it was it ain’t the 90s or even the early 2000s. 30 yrs is a lot and all the people loyal to his brothers flipped or are in the can.

Like say you’re a modern day Gambino and you have half a brain. Do You want to be around a Gotti after John & Peters handling that got everybody arrested, with the rat nephew who goes on TV, and the nephew robbing banks in Howard beach.

Re: Gene Gotti

by jimmi_beans8 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:38 am

Re: Gene Gotti

by newera_212 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:21 am

Not saying Gene spending like 30% of his life in Prison was a good, beneficial thing for him - but realistically if he was able to get a sweet deal at the time and took it, and did his 87% and came home...he most likely would have gotten caught up and indicted again in something else.

Re: Gene Gotti

by aray22 » Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:03 pm

Is Vinny Gotti on the shelf?

Re: Gene Gotti

by outfit guy » Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:13 am

These guys want to live out their day in peace and receive an envelope. But that envelope receipt could lead to more charges, without being active. Should have taken the deal the state offered; would have been out in 9 or less. Steal of a Deal. Gotti Sr.: no deals. Hmmmm, that edict has fucked guys from Mulberry Street to Washington Ave. in Belleville.

Re: Gene Gotti

by CornerBoy » Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:34 am

newera_212 wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 6:53 am
CornerBoy wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:49 am Was gene a shooter in the castellano hit or was he in the can already?
Good question. I feel like over the years I've read about and heard about so much Gotti shit...even as recent as some of Sammy's new podcasts... that all of the names and events from that era just all blend together and I forget what was actually reported as happening. I could be wrong but weren't all of the shooters mentioned in Underboss? And by proxy, since he's essentially rehashing those stories on YouTube now, one of the Podcast episodes? I could be wrong but I feel like Gene wasn't a shooter, but definitely was a part of the planning and met up with everyone before the hit. Unless he was dealing with other charges, he wasn't sentenced and remanded until 1989 for his big pinch I'm pretty sure

They said they met in the community center of a NYCHA building on the Lower East Side the day of the hit, I think it was the Baruch Houses right along the FDR - someone knew the Superintendent and they all met there. Smart place to meet, unlike how the Ravenite was set up, it would be very difficult to stake out and get surveillance if someone happened to see a bunch of wiseguys walk into one of the buildings or pull into the parking lot
thats right next to knickerbocker village

Re: Gene Gotti

by Luca » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:10 pm

When Cali was murdered, I swear I thought Carneglia and Gene Gotti were involved. His murder conincided with them getting released and there is no one left in the Gambino family with the killing experience as them two. It’s possible they could make a play for the top. We now know this isn’t true.

Re: Gene Gotti

by jmack » Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:13 pm

dave wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:14 pm
jmack wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:50 pm Not to mention, he has changed his story a lot lately. Maybe not with this story but in a lot of other stories online.
Interesting. What stories have you found that he has changed? Can you give an example or two? He should definitely be called out if he has.
Look at the Frankie Loc thing. He testified against him then submitted an affidavit saving Frankie had no idea DB was going to get whacked.

Re: Gene Gotti

by Geeleonetti » Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:22 pm

Cornerboy, don’t feel bad it’s definitely interesting to some people here. There’s a lot of douchbags that only comment to try and make people look bad. I don’t have much information on this topic but stay clear of certain knuckleheads on here.

Re: Gene Gotti

by dave » Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:14 pm

jmack wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:50 pm Not to mention, he has changed his story a lot lately. Maybe not with this story but in a lot of other stories online.
Interesting. What stories have you found that he has changed? Can you give an example or two? He should definitely be called out if he has.

Re: Gene Gotti

by jmack » Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:50 pm

NYNighthawk wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:29 pm I still believe they could charge Watts, Gene, carnegilia and whoever else was on the caste4llano hit. Gravano said he had 11 people on it.
There is no corroborating evidence. Their star witness killed 19 people and served almost 20 years for dealing drugs, AFTER cooperating. Not exactly someone you want in front of the jury.

Not to mention, he has changed his story a lot lately. Maybe not with this story but in a lot of other stories online.

Re: Gene Gotti

by SonnyBlackstein » Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:25 am

dack2001 wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:27 am He would not be on parole for 21 years. He would be on parole for certain period of time and then he would be discharged from his sentence and released from parole way before 50 years through earned time from classes and good time.
Thanks dack.

Bet the guy can taste Brill cream.

Re: Gene Gotti

by dack2001 » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:27 am

He would not be on parole for 21 years. He would be on parole for certain period of time and then he would be discharged from his sentence and released from parole way before 50 years through earned time from classes and good time.

Re: Gene Gotti

by SonnyBlackstein » Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:59 am

If you serve 29years of a 50 year term (as Gene did) does that mean you're on parole for the remainder of the sentence? Ie he breaks the law he's back in for the 21years not served?

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