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PolackTony wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:16 pm

B. wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:55 am Zummo's father was apparently the 1980s NYC heroin trafficker Paolo Zummo who was ID'd as a Sicilian mafioso who hung out at Caffe Aiello. I think they're from that inland Trapani area but don't know for sure. There were Zummos in the Gibellina Family.

Bartolotta came up a lot in conversation. His father was also involved in drug trafficking with these guys, Salvatore Bartolotta. An Article says his grandfather was involved too. They're relatives of the Ragusas so maybe from Bagheria like them where Filippo Ragusa was made.

Yeah, I'd bet good money that Zummo's family is from Gibellina or the immediate area. Connections to the guys from Partanna/Santa Ninfa would make sense, so it's unsurprising that Paolo Zummo hung out at Caffe Aiello.

The Bartolottas are Bagheresi. Lots of Bagheresi in these circles, as it turns out. The Ragusas, the Bartolottas, Andrea Aiello, Salvatore Greco, Francesco Affatigato (working with La Portas moving heroin to Philly); the Castronovos I'm pretty sure were also Bagheresi. And, of course, in Bagheria itself Leonardo Greco and Domenico Lo Galbo. Bagheria was, I believe, a really critical part of this network, as it seems that they were using Leonardo Greco's iron factory in Bagheria not just as a storage warehouse, but as a clandestine lab to refine morphine base into heroin.

As a side note, but still Bonanno connected: while following up on some of the Bagheria mafia network people, I came across a Simone Castello from Villabate who was ID'd as a partner of the Grecos and Castronovos in Bagheria. This could connect to the Angelo Castello from Villabate who thekiduknow recently brought up as an apparent Bonanno (instead of Profaci) member in BK.

TSNYC wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:19 pm

CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:06 pm

B. wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:28 am I'd have to see a fully-initiated pentito say explicitly that one of these women was made in order to believe it. Women achieving suffrage in Sicilian Cosa Nostra would be revolutionary and as big as finding out they inducted someone with full African blood.

The press calls people a "boss" or "member" when they aren't, so I can't trust the press alone. There is huge incentive to publish a story about a "female mafia member". Doesn't mean the women weren't used as trusted messengers and maybe even weighed in on decisions but I have to take anything else with a grain of salt.

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Side note but funny I just mentioned Dino Calabro's ties to Sal Montagna, as tonight Frank Fiordilino was on MBA and said Dino is his cousin. So Calabro definitely had ties to the Sicilian mafia and Bonanno Family based on that alone given who the Fiordilinos are.

This was the article I was thinking of at the time.... couldnt remember her name, I actually confused her with Denaros sister.....


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... -reshuffle

Frank Fiordilino was a recent guest on a podcast called The Sit Down: A Mafia History Podcast by Jeff Nadu (available on Apple). Was decent. Talked about the Giannini Crew, Bobby Vernace, his various family members in mob, and being held pretrial with Allie Boy Persico, TG, Joe Massino.

CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:06 pm

B. wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:28 am I'd have to see a fully-initiated pentito say explicitly that one of these women was made in order to believe it. Women achieving suffrage in Sicilian Cosa Nostra would be revolutionary and as big as finding out they inducted someone with full African blood.

The press calls people a "boss" or "member" when they aren't, so I can't trust the press alone. There is huge incentive to publish a story about a "female mafia member". Doesn't mean the women weren't used as trusted messengers and maybe even weighed in on decisions but I have to take anything else with a grain of salt.

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Side note but funny I just mentioned Dino Calabro's ties to Sal Montagna, as tonight Frank Fiordilino was on MBA and said Dino is his cousin. So Calabro definitely had ties to the Sicilian mafia and Bonanno Family based on that alone given who the Fiordilinos are.

This was the article I was thinking of at the time.... couldnt remember her name, I actually confused her with Denaros sister.....


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... -reshuffle

B. wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:28 am I'd have to see a fully-initiated pentito say explicitly that one of these women was made in order to believe it. Women achieving suffrage in Sicilian Cosa Nostra would be revolutionary and as big as finding out they inducted someone with full African blood.

The press calls people a "boss" or "member" when they aren't, so I can't trust the press alone. There is huge incentive to publish a story about a "female mafia member". Doesn't mean the women weren't used as trusted messengers and maybe even weighed in on decisions but I have to take anything else with a grain of salt.

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Side note but funny I just mentioned Dino Calabro's ties to Sal Montagna, as tonight Frank Fiordilino was on MBA and said Dino is his cousin. So Calabro definitely had ties to the Sicilian mafia and Bonanno Family based on that alone given who the Fiordilinos are.

B. wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:46 pm Ah great find, I know nothing about Calabro so good to know he married a Fiordilino. Fiordilino clan gets little attention but played a crucial role in the NYC-CDG connection between the 1960s-1980s.

Frank Fiordilino saying Dino Calabro was his cousin might fit in with what you found. He's said his older relatives were members in CDG but hasn't named who. There were Fiordilinos in the CDG Family but I know Fiordilino was related to other surnames that show up in the CDG Family, so Calabro might be another one.

jimmyb wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 4:38 pm Sorry guys again, for being late to the party. I also apologize if this information is redundant. But anyhow, people have mentioned the names Calabro and Domingo.

Gioacchino Calabro was capomafia in CDG, starting around the early 90s. With Toto Riina's blessing, Calabro orchestrated the murders of the Evola brothers (Natale and Giuseppe). I believe Calabro took over the top spot. For some time the Italian press reported Calabro was running the cosca from prison. Francesco Domingo was his main dude on the streets. But I haven't read about Calabro in some time. He was a lifer, in terms of his prison sentence.

In terms of other Domingo Mafiosi in CDG, there was a Diego Domingo (killed in 83) and Vito Domingo b. 1927. I'm guessing that person is no longer living. And I thought I read there was an Antonio or Antonino Domingo back in the day too. If i recall, there was some confusion because there was a Bonanno member with same name active around same time.

Going back further, Michaelangelo Vitale (born in CDG, son of Vito Vitale) was married to Angelica Domingo. *On a related note, Vito Vitale's daughters all married prominent Mafiosi---one married Jimmy Q in Detroit, one married Gaetano Badalamenti, and one married Filippo Rimi.

I don't know if these Domingos are related to Buster Domingo, but I suspect the probability is high. Even if it's distant cousin thing.

B. wrote: ↑Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:21 pm Could make a solid argument the mandamento system has created more problems in Sicily than solutions. Made the politics more complicated and prone to manipulation with a lot more bosses asserting power and making high-level alliances.

It's why Buscetta pointed out that the Commission seats originally weren't supposed to be held by a capofamiglia. It was designed to reduce the power of individuals but as he said the opposite ended up happening over time.

The reason the US Commission worked so well is it was a simplification of the Gran Consiglio, capo dei capi, and Assemblea Generale, whereas the Sicilian Commission ended up making a more complicated system. I think they were desperate for reorganization after Mussolini and WWII but overdid it. Just my Monday Morning QB take.