by PolackTony » Fri May 13, 2022 11:31 am
Chris Christie wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:38 am
Chris Christie wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:28 am
With the exception of Chiappetta who moved/transferred to St Louis, 100% of the KC membership lived in KC. Unlike other Families like CL, Pittsburgh, Detroit and Phila. that were regional groups. Even Chicago appears to have been mostly contained to Chicago/Heights with exceptions.
I wonder if we'll find the same thing for St Louis, Madison, Milwaukee, Rockford and Springfield.
In terms of mapping this, is it even relevant? There are no factions and it seems more interesting where the city was situated rather than where members lived.
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As stated, I want each of these 63 charts to be measurable with one another-
1) Origins (Region, Prov, City)
2) Occupation
3) Addresses (condensed or scattered)
Multi-citied families and single city families have different needs when it comes to mapping. And this KC Family has 3 members today who weren't Sicilian, so the mainland Italy map is redundant compared to a NY Families. It's stuff that I as the designer have to deal with but I'm open to ideas and suggestions.
Great work here. A major part of the picture with Chicago is the different dynamics of distinct Italian settlement communities in the city as well as adjacent suburbs (Melrose Park, the Heights, Gary). I know far less about KC but from what I can tell the North End was pretty much the Italian community, which was mostly Sicilian, so there was probably less context for distinct factions to form. Chicago developed crews that were like factions, almost like subfamilies, as they reflected multiple distinct Italian communities (I see it as almost like a regional family in that way but all contained within one huge metro area). This is just a tentative theory; as I said, I lack the kind of detailed domain knowledge of KC history and social geography to really make that comparison, but that’s how it looks to me.
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With the exception of Chiappetta who moved/transferred to St Louis, 100% of the KC membership lived in KC. Unlike other Families like CL, Pittsburgh, Detroit and Phila. that were regional groups. Even Chicago appears to have been mostly contained to Chicago/Heights with exceptions.
I wonder if we'll find the same thing for St Louis, Madison, Milwaukee, Rockford and Springfield.
In terms of mapping this, is it even relevant? There are no factions and it seems more interesting where the city was situated rather than where members lived.
kcmap2.PNG
kcmap.PNG
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As stated, I want each of these 63 charts to be measurable with one another-
1) Origins (Region, Prov, City)
2) Occupation
3) Addresses (condensed or scattered)
Multi-citied families and single city families have different needs when it comes to mapping. And this KC Family has 3 members today who weren't Sicilian, so the mainland Italy map is redundant compared to a NY Families. It's stuff that I as the designer have to deal with but I'm open to ideas and suggestions.
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Great work here. A major part of the picture with Chicago is the different dynamics of distinct Italian settlement communities in the city as well as adjacent suburbs (Melrose Park, the Heights, Gary). I know far less about KC but from what I can tell the North End was pretty much the Italian community, which was mostly Sicilian, so there was probably less context for distinct factions to form. Chicago developed crews that were like factions, almost like subfamilies, as they reflected multiple distinct Italian communities (I see it as almost like a regional family in that way but all contained within one huge metro area). This is just a tentative theory; as I said, I lack the kind of detailed domain knowledge of KC history and social geography to really make that comparison, but that’s how it looks to me.